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		<title>By: kennebec Captain</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/marine-license-insurance/?3860#comment-14621</link>
		<dc:creator>kennebec Captain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post,  good questions.  I look forward to reading next week </description>
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		<title>By: kennebec Captain</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/marine-license-insurance/?3860#comment-22102</link>
		<dc:creator>kennebec Captain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post,  good questions.  I look forward to reading next week</description>
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		<title>By: Sparky the Wonder Do</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/marine-license-insurance/?3860#comment-14631</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky the Wonder Do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To make matters worse some license holders are allowing the U.S.C.G. to serve as judge, jury and executioner by signing a &#8220;Settlement Agreement&#8221; in which they prematurely - and needlessly - surrender their licenses in the confusing moments following a marine casualty&quot; 
 
Actually, all settlement agreements must be approved by an ALJ, so the USCG is not wearing all the hats, just the investigator / prosecutor hats.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CIM_16000_10A.pdf &quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CI...&lt;/a&gt;- MSM Volume 4, Investigations.  See page C4-55) .  &quot;If filing a settlement agreement before an ALJ is assigned, the Docketing Center will assign an ALJ and send the settlement file to the ALJ&#8217;s office. After an ALJ is assigned, parties should file settlement agreements directly with the assigned ALJ.&quot; 
 
Additionally, settlement agreements can only be entered into with agreement by both parties - the ALJ cannot force one or the other party to sign off on something they don&#039;t want.  So while the ALJ can recommend settling, if the USCG feels the case is strong enough (and IOs shouldn&#039;t bring cases to the ALJ that aren&#039;t strong) then regardless of discovery, the IO can still, for example, request a 6 month suspension and not sign-off on a 2 month suspension in a settlement agreement.  The case goes to a hearing and the ALJ issues a Decision and Order (case dismissed, suspension, revocation, etc.) 
 
What marines need to be more aware of is the difference between voluntary surrender, voluntary deposit, and good-faith deposit .  
 
-  A voluntary surrender is more like judge and jury since there is no ALJ involved and is identical in effect to revoking the license or MMD - it&#039;s gone for good.  A voluntary surrender should NEVER be agreed on without discussing with a lawyer first. 
- A voluntary deposit is a voluntary suspension, usually used in cases where a mariner self-admits to a drug or alcohol problem and no investigation has been done.  &quot;Under the provision of 46 CFR 5.201, a Voluntary Deposit can only be offered in cases where there is evidence of mental or physical incompetence. A medical condition by itself is not incompetence;&quot; and &quot;46 CFR 5.201(b) discusses the use of a voluntary deposit where the mental or physical incompetence has occurred resulting from the use of, or addiction to dangerous drugs.&quot;. 
- A good-faith deposit of a credential allows a mariner to get &#039;time&#039; counted toward any suspension sanction while the filing/hearing process takes place.  Generally the time deposited is counted toward a final sanction.  At the same time, the mariner can get the credential back at any time if they want to go back to work. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;To make matters worse some license holders are allowing the U.S.C.G. to serve as judge, jury and executioner by signing a &ldquo;Settlement Agreement&rdquo; in which they prematurely &#8211; and needlessly &#8211; surrender their licenses in the confusing moments following a marine casualty&quot; </p>
<p>Actually, all settlement agreements must be approved by an ALJ, so the USCG is not wearing all the hats, just the investigator / prosecutor hats.  (<a href="http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CIM_16000_10A.pdf " target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CI" rel="nofollow">http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CI</a>&#8230;- MSM Volume 4, Investigations.  See page C4-55) .  &quot;If filing a settlement agreement before an ALJ is assigned, the Docketing Center will assign an ALJ and send the settlement file to the ALJ&rsquo;s office. After an ALJ is assigned, parties should file settlement agreements directly with the assigned ALJ.&quot; </p>
<p>Additionally, settlement agreements can only be entered into with agreement by both parties &#8211; the ALJ cannot force one or the other party to sign off on something they don&#039;t want.  So while the ALJ can recommend settling, if the USCG feels the case is strong enough (and IOs shouldn&#039;t bring cases to the ALJ that aren&#039;t strong) then regardless of discovery, the IO can still, for example, request a 6 month suspension and not sign-off on a 2 month suspension in a settlement agreement.  The case goes to a hearing and the ALJ issues a Decision and Order (case dismissed, suspension, revocation, etc.) </p>
<p>What marines need to be more aware of is the difference between voluntary surrender, voluntary deposit, and good-faith deposit .  </p>
<p>-  A voluntary surrender is more like judge and jury since there is no ALJ involved and is identical in effect to revoking the license or MMD &#8211; it&#039;s gone for good.  A voluntary surrender should NEVER be agreed on without discussing with a lawyer first.<br />
- A voluntary deposit is a voluntary suspension, usually used in cases where a mariner self-admits to a drug or alcohol problem and no investigation has been done.  &quot;Under the provision of 46 CFR 5.201, a Voluntary Deposit can only be offered in cases where there is evidence of mental or physical incompetence. A medical condition by itself is not incompetence;&quot; and &quot;46 CFR 5.201(b) discusses the use of a voluntary deposit where the mental or physical incompetence has occurred resulting from the use of, or addiction to dangerous drugs.&quot;.<br />
- A good-faith deposit of a credential allows a mariner to get &#039;time&#039; counted toward any suspension sanction while the filing/hearing process takes place.  Generally the time deposited is counted toward a final sanction.  At the same time, the mariner can get the credential back at any time if they want to go back to work. </p>
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		<title>By: Sparky the Wonder Do</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/marine-license-insurance/?3860#comment-22104</link>
		<dc:creator>Sparky the Wonder Do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To make matters worse some license holders are allowing the U.S.C.G. to serve as judge, jury and executioner by signing a &#8220;Settlement Agreement&#8221; in which they prematurely - and needlessly - surrender their licenses in the confusing moments following a marine casualty&quot; 
 
Actually, all settlement agreements must be approved by an ALJ, so the USCG is not wearing all the hats, just the investigator / prosecutor hats.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CIM_16000_10A.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CI...&lt;/a&gt;- MSM Volume 4, Investigations.  See page C4-55) .  &quot;If filing a settlement agreement before an ALJ is assigned, the Docketing Center will assign an ALJ and send the settlement file to the ALJ&#8217;s office. After an ALJ is assigned, parties should file settlement agreements directly with the assigned ALJ.&quot; 
 
Additionally, settlement agreements can only be entered into with agreement by both parties - the ALJ cannot force one or the other party to sign off on something they don&#039;t want.  So while the ALJ can recommend settling, if the USCG feels the case is strong enough (and IOs shouldn&#039;t bring cases to the ALJ that aren&#039;t strong) then regardless of discovery, the IO can still, for example, request a 6 month suspension and not sign-off on a 2 month suspension in a settlement agreement.  The case goes to a hearing and the ALJ issues a Decision and Order (case dismissed, suspension, revocation, etc.) 
 
What marines need to be more aware of is the difference between voluntary surrender, voluntary deposit, and good-faith deposit .  
 
-  A voluntary surrender is more like judge and jury since there is no ALJ involved and is identical in effect to revoking the license or MMD - it&#039;s gone for good.  A voluntary surrender should NEVER be agreed on without discussing with a lawyer first. 
- A voluntary deposit is a voluntary suspension, usually used in cases where a mariner self-admits to a drug or alcohol problem and no investigation has been done.  &quot;Under the provision of 46 CFR 5.201, a Voluntary Deposit can only be offered in cases where there is evidence of mental or physical incompetence. A medical condition by itself is not incompetence;&quot; and &quot;46 CFR 5.201(b) discusses the use of a voluntary deposit where the mental or physical incompetence has occurred resulting from the use of, or addiction to dangerous drugs.&quot;. 
- A good-faith deposit of a credential allows a mariner to get &#039;time&#039; counted toward any suspension sanction while the filing/hearing process takes place.  Generally the time deposited is counted toward a final sanction.  At the same time, the mariner can get the credential back at any time if they want to go back to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;To make matters worse some license holders are allowing the U.S.C.G. to serve as judge, jury and executioner by signing a &ldquo;Settlement Agreement&rdquo; in which they prematurely &#8211; and needlessly &#8211; surrender their licenses in the confusing moments following a marine casualty&quot; </p>
<p>Actually, all settlement agreements must be approved by an ALJ, so the USCG is not wearing all the hats, just the investigator / prosecutor hats.  (<a href="http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CIM_16000_10A.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CI" rel="nofollow">http://www.uscg.mil/directives/cim/16000-16999/CI</a>&#8230;- MSM Volume 4, Investigations.  See page C4-55) .  &quot;If filing a settlement agreement before an ALJ is assigned, the Docketing Center will assign an ALJ and send the settlement file to the ALJ&rsquo;s office. After an ALJ is assigned, parties should file settlement agreements directly with the assigned ALJ.&quot; </p>
<p>Additionally, settlement agreements can only be entered into with agreement by both parties &#8211; the ALJ cannot force one or the other party to sign off on something they don&#039;t want.  So while the ALJ can recommend settling, if the USCG feels the case is strong enough (and IOs shouldn&#039;t bring cases to the ALJ that aren&#039;t strong) then regardless of discovery, the IO can still, for example, request a 6 month suspension and not sign-off on a 2 month suspension in a settlement agreement.  The case goes to a hearing and the ALJ issues a Decision and Order (case dismissed, suspension, revocation, etc.) </p>
<p>What marines need to be more aware of is the difference between voluntary surrender, voluntary deposit, and good-faith deposit .  </p>
<p>-  A voluntary surrender is more like judge and jury since there is no ALJ involved and is identical in effect to revoking the license or MMD &#8211; it&#039;s gone for good.  A voluntary surrender should NEVER be agreed on without discussing with a lawyer first.<br />
- A voluntary deposit is a voluntary suspension, usually used in cases where a mariner self-admits to a drug or alcohol problem and no investigation has been done.  &quot;Under the provision of 46 CFR 5.201, a Voluntary Deposit can only be offered in cases where there is evidence of mental or physical incompetence. A medical condition by itself is not incompetence;&quot; and &quot;46 CFR 5.201(b) discusses the use of a voluntary deposit where the mental or physical incompetence has occurred resulting from the use of, or addiction to dangerous drugs.&quot;.<br />
- A good-faith deposit of a credential allows a mariner to get &#039;time&#039; counted toward any suspension sanction while the filing/hearing process takes place.  Generally the time deposited is counted toward a final sanction.  At the same time, the mariner can get the credential back at any time if they want to go back to work.</p>
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		<title>By: mateD</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/marine-license-insurance/?3860#comment-14622</link>
		<dc:creator>mateD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife, of all people, has been bugging me to get this for years. Maybe she&#039;s right, it wouldn&#039;t be the first time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife, of all people, has been bugging me to get this for years. Maybe she&#039;s right, it wouldn&#039;t be the first time. </p>
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		<title>By: mateD</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/marine-license-insurance/?3860#comment-22103</link>
		<dc:creator>mateD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife, of all people, has been bugging me to get this for years. Maybe she&#039;s right, it wouldn&#039;t be the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife, of all people, has been bugging me to get this for years. Maybe she&#039;s right, it wouldn&#039;t be the first time.</p>
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