Comments on: Discharge of CO2 – Marine Firefighting Video http://gcaptain.com/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/?235 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:08:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Carl http://gcaptain.com/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/?235#comment-21027 Carl Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:46:24 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/#comment-21027 Back in the mid-90's the Navy had a fatality (I think maybe two people died) in a paint locker while maintenance was being performed on the CO2 system. A lot of questions were raised because the door to the space was open and the sailors were standing only a couple of feet from the entrance. How could they not just step out into fresh air when it happened?<br><br>One of the investigators decided to recreate the accident, wearing an SCBA. He wrote about the experience in a Navy magazine, I think it was Fathom, and it was very interesting. He was very surprised to how fast everything happened. He described the locker almost instantaneously filling with a cloud of CO2. It was very loud and disorienting. In the end, it was not difficult to imagine how the sailors died even though they were steps from safety. CO2 is not something to mess around with. Back in the mid-90's the Navy had a fatality (I think maybe two people died) in a paint locker while maintenance was being performed on the CO2 system. A lot of questions were raised because the door to the space was open and the sailors were standing only a couple of feet from the entrance. How could they not just step out into fresh air when it happened?

One of the investigators decided to recreate the accident, wearing an SCBA. He wrote about the experience in a Navy magazine, I think it was Fathom, and it was very interesting. He was very surprised to how fast everything happened. He described the locker almost instantaneously filling with a cloud of CO2. It was very loud and disorienting. In the end, it was not difficult to imagine how the sailors died even though they were steps from safety. CO2 is not something to mess around with.

]]> By: Carl http://gcaptain.com/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/?235#comment-20700 Carl Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:46:24 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/#comment-20700 Back in the mid-90's the Navy had a fatality (I think maybe two people died) in a paint locker while maintenance was being performed on the CO2 system. A lot of questions were raised because the door to the space was open and the sailors were standing only a couple of feet from the entrance. How could they not just step out into fresh air when it happened?<br><br>One of the investigators decided to recreate the accident, wearing an SCBA. He wrote about the experience in a Navy magazine, I think it was Fathom, and it was very interesting. He was very surprised to how fast everything happened. He described the locker almost instantaneously filling with a cloud of CO2. It was very loud and disorienting. In the end, it was not difficult to imagine how the sailors died even though they were steps from safety. CO2 is not something to mess around with. Back in the mid-90's the Navy had a fatality (I think maybe two people died) in a paint locker while maintenance was being performed on the CO2 system. A lot of questions were raised because the door to the space was open and the sailors were standing only a couple of feet from the entrance. How could they not just step out into fresh air when it happened?

One of the investigators decided to recreate the accident, wearing an SCBA. He wrote about the experience in a Navy magazine, I think it was Fathom, and it was very interesting. He was very surprised to how fast everything happened. He described the locker almost instantaneously filling with a cloud of CO2. It was very loud and disorienting. In the end, it was not difficult to imagine how the sailors died even though they were steps from safety. CO2 is not something to mess around with.

]]> By: Bob Couttie http://gcaptain.com/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/?235#comment-4322 Bob Couttie Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:03:19 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/#comment-4322 If I can add my thruppence worth: It's a good ideato ensure that CO2 is the right technology and in the right place. On the Maersk Doha a fire broke out in the EGE and the CO@ drench system was fired in the Engine room. CO2 is heavier than air and the EGE was in the funnel casing above the engine room. It wouldn't have worked anyway because the EGE fire was over 1,000 c and was being fed by water already there (water dissociates into hydrogen, a fuel, and oxygen, which is what a fuel needs to burn) so it was self-sustaining. Oh, and only 7 out of more than 200 cylinders of CO2 actually went off. If I can add my thruppence worth: It’s a good ideato ensure that CO2 is the right technology and in the right place. On the Maersk Doha a fire broke out in the EGE and the CO@ drench system was fired in the Engine room. CO2 is heavier than air and the EGE was in the funnel casing above the engine room. It wouldn’t have worked anyway because the EGE fire was over 1,000 c and was being fed by water already there (water dissociates into hydrogen, a fuel, and oxygen, which is what a fuel needs to burn) so it was self-sustaining.

Oh, and only 7 out of more than 200 cylinders of CO2 actually went off.

]]> By: Bob Couttie http://gcaptain.com/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/?235#comment-13921 Bob Couttie Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:03:19 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/#comment-13921 If I can add my thruppence worth: It's a good ideato ensure that CO2 is the right technology and in the right place. On the Maersk Doha a fire broke out in the EGE and the CO@ drench system was fired in the Engine room. CO2 is heavier than air and the EGE was in the funnel casing above the engine room. It wouldn't have worked anyway because the EGE fire was over 1,000 c and was being fed by water already there (water dissociates into hydrogen, a fuel, and oxygen, which is what a fuel needs to burn) so it was self-sustaining.<br><br>Oh, and only 7 out of more than 200 cylinders of CO2 actually went off. If I can add my thruppence worth: It’s a good ideato ensure that CO2 is the right technology and in the right place. On the Maersk Doha a fire broke out in the EGE and the CO@ drench system was fired in the Engine room. CO2 is heavier than air and the EGE was in the funnel casing above the engine room. It wouldn’t have worked anyway because the EGE fire was over 1,000 c and was being fed by water already there (water dissociates into hydrogen, a fuel, and oxygen, which is what a fuel needs to burn) so it was self-sustaining.

Oh, and only 7 out of more than 200 cylinders of CO2 actually went off.

]]> By: BuildHome » The Dangers of CO2 use in Firefighting - Videos http://gcaptain.com/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/?235#comment-4307 BuildHome » The Dangers of CO2 use in Firefighting - Videos Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:00:20 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-dangers-of-co2-use-in-firefighting-videos/#comment-4307 [...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here’s a quick excerpt Prior to using a fixed fire system, especially CO2, always have a full muster! Why? This Navy video shows the inside view of what happens when this deadly gas is released. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkCFcIy9SnI How about when a 75lbs bottle explodes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_wa4jZ5_qk Why not to use CO2 on a Class D fire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqErrNvns4o Some facts from the EPA: (more…) Share This | [IMG] [IMG] [...] [...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here’s a quick excerpt Prior to using a fixed fire system, especially CO2, always have a full muster! Why? This Navy video shows the inside view of what happens when this deadly gas is released. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkCFcIy9SnI How about when a 75lbs bottle explodes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_wa4jZ5_qk Why not to use CO2 on a Class D fire: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqErrNvns4o Some facts from the EPA: (more…) Share This | [IMG] [IMG] [...]

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