Comments on: The Most Dangerous Hour In Shipping http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/ A Blog About Ships Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:36:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Scott Kreger http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-5550 Scott Kreger Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:39:08 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-5550 Many US Ships, at least the goverment ship's I have sailed on have two 3rd mates in addition to the CM & 2M. Many US Ships, at least the goverment ship’s I have sailed on have two 3rd mates in addition to the CM & 2M.

]]> By: Scott Kreger http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-13862 Scott Kreger Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:39:08 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-13862 Many US Ships, at least the goverment ship's I have sailed on have two 3rd mates in addition to the CM & 2M. Many US Ships, at least the goverment ship’s I have sailed on have two 3rd mates in addition to the CM & 2M.

]]> By: Fred Fry International: Maritime Monday 89 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-5525 Fred Fry International: Maritime Monday 89 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:58:29 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-5525 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] the Global Warming econuts. (Found at EU Referendum)gCaptain also looks at watchstanding with "The Most Dangerous Hour In Shipping". After you read that, take a look at my post "DANICA WHITE Hijacking - 'Minimum Safe Manning' [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] the Global Warming econuts. (Found at EU Referendum)gCaptain also looks at watchstanding with “The Most Dangerous Hour In Shipping”. After you read that, take a look at my post “DANICA WHITE Hijacking – ‘Minimum Safe Manning’ [...]

]]> By: Patrick http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-5453 Patrick Sat, 15 Dec 2007 12:05:59 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-5453 A significant number of ships have adopted an alternative watch schedule 2/m - 00-06, 08-10 c/m - 06-08, 12-1730 3/m - 10-12, 1730-24 This provide 10 to 12 hour rest periods for all involved A significant number of ships have adopted an alternative watch schedule

2/m – 00-06, 08-10
c/m – 06-08, 12-1730
3/m – 10-12, 1730-24

This provide 10 to 12 hour rest periods for all involved

]]> By: Patrick http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-13043 Patrick Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:05:59 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-13043 A significant number of ships have adopted an alternative watch schedule<br><br>2/m - 00-06, 08-10<br>c/m - 06-08, 12-1730<br>3/m - 10-12, 1730-24<br><br>This provide 10 to 12 hour rest periods for all involved A significant number of ships have adopted an alternative watch schedule

2/m – 00-06, 08-10
c/m – 06-08, 12-1730
3/m – 10-12, 1730-24

This provide 10 to 12 hour rest periods for all involved

]]> By: John http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-5402 John Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:25:11 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-5402 John you're absolutely right, changeover is often the most dangerous time... hard to write an article on that though. I should have set this part of the post in bold "Not a problem *if* the Third has experience" John you’re absolutely right, changeover is often the most dangerous time… hard to write an article on that though.

I should have set this part of the post in bold “Not a problem *if* the Third has experience”

]]> By: John Denham http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-5400 John Denham Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:02:08 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-5400 Regarding your article on BRM. See: Naval Institute Proceeding September 1994 pages 111-114.ORGANIZING AND MANAGING THE BRIDGE TEAM. The most important word is organizing. It doesn't just happen. In APL it cost over $1,00,000 in training to convince many experienced , senior captains the bridge watch personnel were not individuals but teams, licensed, unlicensed and pilots. Few ships unmoor with the same people on the bridge as during the transit to or from sea. The article was written after implemenation at APL. The US Navy has a system of assigning duties to persons on the bridge for combat but few recognize the risk in day today navigation. See:" Why Didn't I Slow down." Naval Institue Proceeding January 1966 Page 79-81 Regarding your article on BRM. See: Naval Institute Proceeding September 1994 pages 111-114.ORGANIZING AND MANAGING THE BRIDGE TEAM. The most important word is organizing. It doesn’t just happen. In APL it cost over $1,00,000 in training to convince many experienced , senior captains the bridge watch personnel were not individuals but teams, licensed, unlicensed and pilots. Few ships unmoor with the same people on the bridge as during the transit to or from sea. The article was written after implemenation at APL. The US Navy has a system of assigning duties to persons on the bridge for combat but few recognize the risk in day today navigation. See:” Why Didn’t I Slow down.” Naval Institue Proceeding January 1966 Page 79-81

]]> By: John Denham http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-5398 John Denham Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:15:15 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-5398 The article incorrectly implies ALL ships at sea are as described whereas many ships (cruise , MM&P manned vessel) frequently have licensed masters as 3rd mates. My experience was that all watch changing times were most exposed to distractions, confusion and misunderstanding. Always of concern was the evening meal relief. The article incorrectly implies ALL ships at sea are as described whereas many ships (cruise , MM&P manned vessel) frequently have licensed masters as 3rd mates. My experience was that all watch changing times were most exposed to distractions, confusion and misunderstanding. Always of concern was the evening meal relief.

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]]> By: John Denham http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/comment-page-1/#comment-13042 John Denham Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:15:15 +0000 http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/the-most-dangerous-hour-in-shipping/#comment-13042 The article incorrectly implies ALL ships at sea are as described whereas many ships (cruise , MM&P manned vessel) frequently have licensed masters as 3rd mates. My experience was that all watch changing times were most exposed to distractions, confusion and misunderstanding. Always of concern was the evening meal relief. The article incorrectly implies ALL ships at sea are as described whereas many ships (cruise , MM&P manned vessel) frequently have licensed masters as 3rd mates. My experience was that all watch changing times were most exposed to distractions, confusion and misunderstanding. Always of concern was the evening meal relief.

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