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	<title>Comments on: Activists Held Hostage By Whalers</title>
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		<title>By: trautfish1</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/activists-held-hostage-by-whalers/comment-page-1/#comment-16064</link>
		<dc:creator>trautfish1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Sea Shepard crew show their incompetence at sea every episode.  Thesee guys are a danger to themselves and the poor guys that are obligated to rescue them.  From what I&#039;ve read they violate the U.N.&#039;s rule for piracy.  Don&#039;t get me wrong... I&#039;m against whaling, if the Sea Shepards had put their energy into informing the U.S. public of the sins of theJapanese whalers, and suggest we boycott Japanese made products...Sony, Honda etc.  If  they got just 10% of us to quit buying Japanese.  Corporate Japan would force the issue in Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Sea Shepard crew show their incompetence at sea every episode.  Thesee guys are a danger to themselves and the poor guys that are obligated to rescue them.  From what I&#8217;ve read they violate the U.N.&#8217;s rule for piracy.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8230; I&#8217;m against whaling, if the Sea Shepards had put their energy into informing the U.S. public of the sins of theJapanese whalers, and suggest we boycott Japanese made products&#8230;Sony, Honda etc.  If  they got just 10% of us to quit buying Japanese.  Corporate Japan would force the issue in Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/activists-held-hostage-by-whalers/comment-page-1/#comment-6444</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I think that Fred is right about the duty of care owed to these guys - it is the same as the duty owed to a stowaway. I don&#039;t think that there is one set of laws that will govern their rights, but if there is, then the flag state&#039;s laws are the most persuasive. If the flag state has ratified a treaty that addresses their rights, then that would certainly be binding as well. 
UK and Aussi laws probably won&#039;t play a part in determining their rights, especially if the vessel doesn&#039;t ever call to a port in or have connections with either country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I think that Fred is right about the duty of care owed to these guys &#8211; it is the same as the duty owed to a stowaway. I don&#8217;t think that there is one set of laws that will govern their rights, but if there is, then the flag state&#8217;s laws are the most persuasive. If the flag state has ratified a treaty that addresses their rights, then that would certainly be binding as well.<br />
UK and Aussi laws probably won&#8217;t play a part in determining their rights, especially if the vessel doesn&#8217;t ever call to a port in or have connections with either country.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/activists-held-hostage-by-whalers/comment-page-1/#comment-13855</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, I think that Fred is right about the duty of care owed to these guys - it is the same as the duty owed to a stowaway. I don&#039;t think that there is one set of laws that will govern their rights, but if there is, then the flag state&#039;s laws are the most persuasive. If the flag state has ratified a treaty that addresses their rights, then that would certainly be binding as well. &lt;br&gt;UK and Aussi laws probably won&#039;t play a part in determining their rights, especially if the vessel doesn&#039;t ever call to a port in or have connections with either country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, I think that Fred is right about the duty of care owed to these guys &#8211; it is the same as the duty owed to a stowaway. I don&#8217;t think that there is one set of laws that will govern their rights, but if there is, then the flag state&#8217;s laws are the most persuasive. If the flag state has ratified a treaty that addresses their rights, then that would certainly be binding as well. <br />UK and Aussi laws probably won&#8217;t play a part in determining their rights, especially if the vessel doesn&#8217;t ever call to a port in or have connections with either country.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Fry</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/activists-held-hostage-by-whalers/comment-page-1/#comment-6436</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from today&#039;s Fairplay Daily News email:

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&quot;Protestor action could be ‘piracy’

CANBERRA - 16 January – An incident involving whaling protestors is threatening Australia&#039;s relationship with Japan and has thrown up some intriguing questions of maritime law. Two crew members, one British and one Australian, from the Netherlands-registered ship Steve Irwin have been detained on the Japanese whaling ship Yushin Maru No 2. The men, members of the environmentalist group Sea Shepherd, reportedly boarded the Japanese vessel in the Southern Ocean to hand over a &quot;letter of intent&quot;. However, questions of security have been raised – notably whether the incident counts as an &quot;unauthorised boarding&quot; or something more serious such as piracy or terrorism. The clash came about as anti-whaling protesters sought to prevent the annual Japanese whaling activities in the Southern Ocean which Japan insists is in the name of research. According to Australian media reports, the Japanese vessel sent an e-mail to the Steve Irwin to arrange the handover but had not received a response. The message reportedly demanded that the men&#039;s release was conditional on Sea Shepherd not interfering with the whaling operation.&quot;
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&#8220;Protestor action could be ‘piracy’</p>
<p>CANBERRA &#8211; 16 January – An incident involving whaling protestors is threatening Australia&#8217;s relationship with Japan and has thrown up some intriguing questions of maritime law. Two crew members, one British and one Australian, from the Netherlands-registered ship Steve Irwin have been detained on the Japanese whaling ship Yushin Maru No 2. The men, members of the environmentalist group Sea Shepherd, reportedly boarded the Japanese vessel in the Southern Ocean to hand over a &#8220;letter of intent&#8221;. However, questions of security have been raised – notably whether the incident counts as an &#8220;unauthorised boarding&#8221; or something more serious such as piracy or terrorism. The clash came about as anti-whaling protesters sought to prevent the annual Japanese whaling activities in the Southern Ocean which Japan insists is in the name of research. According to Australian media reports, the Japanese vessel sent an e-mail to the Steve Irwin to arrange the handover but had not received a response. The message reportedly demanded that the men&#8217;s release was conditional on Sea Shepherd not interfering with the whaling operation.&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Fred Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from today&#039;s Fairplay Daily News email:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-------------------------------------------------&lt;br&gt;&quot;Protestor action could be ‘piracy’&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CANBERRA - 16 January – An incident involving whaling protestors is threatening Australia&#039;s relationship with Japan and has thrown up some intriguing questions of maritime law. Two crew members, one British and one Australian, from the Netherlands-registered ship Steve Irwin have been detained on the Japanese whaling ship Yushin Maru No 2. The men, members of the environmentalist group Sea Shepherd, reportedly boarded the Japanese vessel in the Southern Ocean to hand over a &quot;letter of intent&quot;. However, questions of security have been raised – notably whether the incident counts as an &quot;unauthorised boarding&quot; or something more serious such as piracy or terrorism. The clash came about as anti-whaling protesters sought to prevent the annual Japanese whaling activities in the Southern Ocean which Japan insists is in the name of research. According to Australian media reports, the Japanese vessel sent an e-mail to the Steve Irwin to arrange the handover but had not received a response. The message reportedly demanded that the men&#039;s release was conditional on Sea Shepherd not interfering with the whaling operation.&quot;&lt;br&gt;-------------------------------------------------</description>
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<p>CANBERRA &#8211; 16 January – An incident involving whaling protestors is threatening Australia&#8217;s relationship with Japan and has thrown up some intriguing questions of maritime law. Two crew members, one British and one Australian, from the Netherlands-registered ship Steve Irwin have been detained on the Japanese whaling ship Yushin Maru No 2. The men, members of the environmentalist group Sea Shepherd, reportedly boarded the Japanese vessel in the Southern Ocean to hand over a &#8220;letter of intent&#8221;. However, questions of security have been raised – notably whether the incident counts as an &#8220;unauthorised boarding&#8221; or something more serious such as piracy or terrorism. The clash came about as anti-whaling protesters sought to prevent the annual Japanese whaling activities in the Southern Ocean which Japan insists is in the name of research. According to Australian media reports, the Japanese vessel sent an e-mail to the Steve Irwin to arrange the handover but had not received a response. The message reportedly demanded that the men&#8217;s release was conditional on Sea Shepherd not interfering with the whaling operation.&#8221;<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Fry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How could it possibly be human to keep a man on a ship against his will for days on end.&quot;

Debby, These two risked the lives of the crew of that vessel, not to mention their own lives.  Can you gaurantee the safety of the transer of these two from the vessel?  Do you remember that last year one of the protest boats got lost down there?

It&#039;s not like these two are being kept from going home.  They have to be on a ship for a while no matter what, so I don&#039;t get your point. 

Days?  These guys are likely to be detained for a month or two.  You underestimate how pissed off these protesters have gotten the Japanese. 

(For the record, I am against the whaling.  However, this is the wrong way to protest it.)</description>
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<p>Debby, These two risked the lives of the crew of that vessel, not to mention their own lives.  Can you gaurantee the safety of the transer of these two from the vessel?  Do you remember that last year one of the protest boats got lost down there?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like these two are being kept from going home.  They have to be on a ship for a while no matter what, so I don&#8217;t get your point. </p>
<p>Days?  These guys are likely to be detained for a month or two.  You underestimate how pissed off these protesters have gotten the Japanese. </p>
<p>(For the record, I am against the whaling.  However, this is the wrong way to protest it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Debby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, you should be ashamed of yourself. How could it possibly be human to keep a man on a ship against his will for days on end. These guys are trying to do GOOD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, you should be ashamed of yourself. How could it possibly be human to keep a man on a ship against his will for days on end. These guys are trying to do GOOD</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Fry</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/activists-held-hostage-by-whalers/comment-page-1/#comment-13853</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How could it possibly be human to keep a man on a ship against his will for days on end.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Debby, These two risked the lives of the crew of that vessel, not to mention their own lives.  Can you gaurantee the safety of the transer of these two from the vessel?  Do you remember that last year one of the protest boats got lost down there?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s not like these two are being kept from going home.  They have to be on a ship for a while no matter what, so I don&#039;t get your point. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Days?  These guys are likely to be detained for a month or two.  You underestimate how pissed off these protesters have gotten the Japanese. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(For the record, I am against the whaling.  However, this is the wrong way to protest it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How could it possibly be human to keep a man on a ship against his will for days on end.&#8221;</p>
<p>Debby, These two risked the lives of the crew of that vessel, not to mention their own lives.  Can you gaurantee the safety of the transer of these two from the vessel?  Do you remember that last year one of the protest boats got lost down there?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like these two are being kept from going home.  They have to be on a ship for a while no matter what, so I don&#8217;t get your point. </p>
<p>Days?  These guys are likely to be detained for a month or two.  You underestimate how pissed off these protesters have gotten the Japanese. </p>
<p>(For the record, I am against the whaling.  However, this is the wrong way to protest it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hart</title>
		<link>http://gcaptain.com/maritime/blog/activists-held-hostage-by-whalers/comment-page-1/#comment-6427</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hostages?  Yeah right these guys should be considered pirates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hostages?  Yeah right these guys should be considered pirates.</p>
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		<title>By: Debby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, you should be ashamed of yourself. How could it possibly be human to keep a man on a ship against his will for days on end. These guys are trying to do GOOD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, you should be ashamed of yourself. How could it possibly be human to keep a man on a ship against his will for days on end. These guys are trying to do GOOD</p>
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