WRT to Hazing, it was not difficult to Google a few examples at Mass Maritime.
Here is one:
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Let's not get too hung up on whether or not this still goes on. It's not something worth dwelling on and should not be a big factor in choosing an academy.
Plenty of old salts made it through the program back when it was SOP.
Any regimented education will be tougher than what you'll find at a regular college. That's OK, that's what I'm signing up for.
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Another thing to consider: SUNY has been on a binge to enroll students, upping their enrollment significantly. So much so, that there aren't enough dorm rooms or enough room on the Empire State for everyone. Thus, you are tripled up in bunks and the sea term has been split in two and third years encouraged to ship out commercial for a summer (a good idea, anyway, KP does it). Also, your tuition is going up significantly this coming year, so that may impact the incoming numbers. So DO chat with a MUG or two in the fall - but that goes for all schools. You also need to drill down into the majors - sounds like you want to be a deckie, above decks, rather than an engineer, below decks. It makes a huge difference in your class requirements. Check them out at all schools. All the schools have great reputations and graduates end up in the same places, so scout out where it works best for you.
I graduated from SUNY '09, came in in '04. (yep, 5 year program.. ). I dont know much about Mass Maritime so i wont comment on it. But from what i saw over the 5 years i was on the SUNY campus is the regiment becoming more and more lax. Also every year since i was there was a 'record setting incoming class'. And as mentioned, they were stacking them 3 high in normally 2 person rooms and many 'borderline' people were being booted off cruise to make space.
I hated my time spent there probably as much as any other person. The key is to keep a low profile and just get your work done. Like most places, its a shitty place to be, but a good place to come from. The location isnt bad as your a bus or a train ride away from Manhattan. There is not much to do around the Bronx unless you like hitting the bars on Tremont...which you should not be doing unless your of age .
I personally wouldnt worry about what school you came from. The 'paperwork' you graduate with is more important i think. Either way you will be branded as a 'university' or 'academy' guy by most when you start working.
Good luck with your choice. If you have any questions from a recent grad feel free to private message me or just post here.. i will try to answer to the best of my ability objectively, but ALOT changed at this school in the 5 years i was there, so your probably better off visiting the campus and talking to both upper and lowerclassmen on campus.
Good stuff guys.
I'll be taking my ACT in 2 weeks on the off chance I score better than my SAT. (Gonna suck if I bomb) I'll apply to all 3 NE Academys in September.
I have not been to Maine yet - it's a 7 hour drive - figure I'll invest in a trip only if accepted first. I'll overnight at 2 schools in October before making a decision.
Thanks for the input. I have more info now, but I'm honestly no closer to a decision. They are all good schools.
Hate to beat a dead horse, but someone recently asked "why not enlist in the Coast Guard to see if you really like the lifestyle before running off to an academy? You'll have the GI Bill, some saved money and a lot of great experience."
I don't know "why not". MUG orintation might seem a little redundant after 4 years in the service but thats no reason to dismiss the idea.
I'm getting ready to shoot off my applications to Mass & SUNY but a CG (or Navy) enlistment might be a good option as well.
I don't know about SUNY's programs with the Navy or CG, but Mass Maritime has their SIP program. It's pretty much Navy reserves and they pay you during school to help. I'm not to sure of the details though, so your best bet is to shoot an email to someone at the school. I'm sure their website has a page on it.
As for the Transportation major, it is a good program. They are also adding new deck simulators in their brand new library. I wish I hadn't graduated before it was complete! The campus is nice, quiet and out of the way, unlike Suny which is under a bridge, even if they have a fort.
Anyway, good luck with your decision!
Got to see both side of the simulator at Mass Maritime. Pretty neat. Got to pilot a tug on virtural side, and asked to controller to program a hurricane for the next group of vistors. He even threw in a waterspout for good measure.
I was on the USCG Eagle in New London, CT this week. Spoke at length to the tour guide. She loves the CG and will reenlist in another 2 months. She thinks I should go CG and let the gov't pay for my education.
( they have a bunch of programs).
So....I still will apply to SUNY, Mass and Maine...talk to a CG recruiter and end up ???
(hopefully on the water)
Accepted to Mass Maritime. Got letter this week.
SUNY Maritime left a voice mail that they never rec'd my $50 application fee, I sent another, now they say they have 2 application fee checks but lost my general SUNY application, please resubmit. (Is SUNY Maritime really THAT screwed up?)
Maine Maritime has not even acknowleged receipt of my application.
So far, looks like Mass Maritime has my vote.
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I enlisted in the USCG at age 17 for this very reason. It was a great experience, and I wouldn't trade those years for anything. However upon looking back I wish I had found SUNY at the beginning of my career rather than at the end.
As for location, you simply cannot beat NY. Many outsiders simply do not know where to look for the gems we have to offer. We have beaches here, in fact right in the Bronx, but since the cadets are not really here in the Summer it's a moot point.
I do admit SUNY is crowded right now. This is a product of Governor Paterson's economics. However out of all those MUGs coming in, many will leave after the first semester for greener pastures, not to mention the ones that either can't cut it academically or simply get "kicked out".
There is an important advantage to doing enlisted USCG time. When you do make it to SUNY you can become a Day Student or Student in Special Status, which allows you to live off campus and not have to do most of the MUG stuff. As a veteran you will only have to do two weeks of Indoctrination (a joke) and then you can enjoy day student privileges.