I'm a lowly cadet who has to write a feasibility analysis paper for a business writing class. I figured I'd write it on something i kinda give a shit about and happen to come across while on gcaptain. So enough of the blah blah bullshit, I want to know what the thoughts on the current 4 on 8 off work schedule are. I've come across some things saying over seas the hours have been changed or made so that it is possible to be able to get a full 8 hours sleep (which I'm sure is a joke considering it's the maritime industry and there's something always going on). But if you could change it what would you do, why, or why would you keep the current schedule. Any input would be great, thanks
I know watch's are set by captain on some Tugs the work 6 and 6 a lot of other vessels work 12 and 12 so on this watch you can get some good sleep and on a very few vessels where you have extra bridge personnel you can get a 8 and 16 watch
when i was working on small tugs most boats were 6 on 6 off, but i have worked 7x5x5x7, meaning 7hrs on watch, 5 hrs off, 5 hrs on watch, 7 off. Took some getting used to, but was kinda nice, was able to get a little more sleep, and it felt like the days went by quicker. But it also sucked for the back watch standing watch 2200-0500, makes for a long night.
We do a watch on some of our tugs where capt drives 0600-1200 c/m 12-1800 capt 1800-2200 2nd mate 2200-0200 c/m 0200-0600 its nice to get the extra 2hrs of sleep at night and the 2nd gets some drive time. If he's a seasoned 2nd we will do 4/8's
Your asking a question on a topic that is undergoing a huge revision and inspection now. First look up the actual laws regarding hours of work, and how long the mandated 'hours off and on' are, and how that is being violated even with some of these examples seen on this post.
I never really liked the standard 6/6 on in a two watch system. You rarely get more than 5 hrs sleep if your lucky and I know I was pretty much always tired. I tried to get my watch relief to try a 8/8/4/4 but he liked his routine too much. I thought a 06-14, 14-18, 18-22, 22-06 rotation would get both of us a chance for some real sack time and it was still pretty close to the normal hours. Being the engineer on an ATB I guess I'm technically on a watch but in truth I'm really a day worker which is definitely my preference.
If you're talking a three watch system, then I say the 4x8 is fine. You get a pretty solid 7 hours almost every day. One guy is always going to get the short end of the stick no matter what system you follow. The 12-4 guy is the only who has a sucky watch on 4x8 but its not too much different than just being up really late and sleeping in like I'm sure many guys do when they are home ... minus the copious consumption of alcohol of course. I always liked the 4-8 because I had no problem getting up at 3 if since I had the chance to go to bed so early, if we were in port I had the whole daytime off and working till 12 on OT was pretty painless.
My capt and I work the 8/4/4/8 watches im on watch from 1400-1800 then 2200-0600. We both get plenty of sleep, we have time to wash clothes or run out for a minute, and the days seem to go by much faster.
A former Maersk chief officer was awarded substantial damages by a Florida court after suffering heart damage as a result of working excessive hours
A recent court ruling in Florida leaves shipowners facing the threat of legal action from seafarers who feel that their working conditions at sea have contributed to poor health, both in the US and other jurisdictions, lawyers have confirmed, reports 'Intermanager'.
William Skye, a former chief officer with Maersk, was awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars after he claimed that he had suffered heart damage as a result of working 16 hours a day at sea, forcing him to take early retirement at the age of 54.
“This is an important case, because it paves the way for similar-situated crew members who are injured by working too many hours and too many duties,” said Jason Magulies of Lipcon Margulies Alsina & Winkleman, who acted for Mr Skye.
Mr Skye’s negligence case was brought in May under the US Jones Act, which protects seafarers’ rights even when they work on foreign-flagged ships. The case resulted in a substantial award to the plaintiff.
His lawyers argued that he typically snatched less than six hours sleep a day because he had to undertake two four-hour watches, followed by 28 additional duties associated with his role on board.