Just curious if the industry follows any trends for hiring, like is there a busy season to be hired in the commercial industry or is it just luck.
Brody: You're certifiable, Quint! You know that?
Quint: Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Petroleum shifts around the spring change over to gas, and the fall shift to heating oil. But crew quits, gets bagged on drug tests, and gets promoted at anytime. Keep calling or visiting. Have you called the 333 hall on Staten Island?Originally Posted by tank3355
Be ready a few days before Christmas or Thanksgiving and be willing to give up your holiday at home if you really want the job.
Don't bother with 333. The union is a mess right now, K-Sea just voted out and formed their own union and it looks like other companies will be going the same way when their contracts expire. Follow the bitchfest firsthand here: http://nyharbor.webs.com/
What do you mean formed their own union? I figured with Kirby buying them out, they would just fall under the Kirby banner and be non-union.Originally Posted by highseasharry
K-Sea is leaving the union when their contract is up. I didn't understand the part about creating their own union.Originally Posted by ChiefRob
According to a quick scan of http://nyharbor.webs.com/ KSea employees voted to decertify Local 333 and formed a new union called RTBU.
They voted out 333 and voted in the "Richmond Terrace Bargaining Unit". My understand is that it is just a bunch K-Sea guys who intend to operate as a union while managing it all themselves in their spare time. Curious to see how that works out for them.Originally Posted by ryanwood86
In some respects I am amazed these guys took the chance. I know a couple of guys who came from Kirby. LOW pay, shitty benefits, lousy work schedule (OK, so I'm prejudiced against working 2 for 1 or 3 for 1.... shoot me) Yeah, the year end wage is higher, but what about the home life being gone for 8 or 9 months a year? Dann Towing...... Sign me up!
Given that NYC is a challenging and a super busy place to work that requires a lot of local knowledge, it should pay some of the highest wages in the industry. NYC is also a very expensive place to live. I don't suggest that all of the tug crews should live in NYC, but a reasonable portion of them should, and they should be able to live decently on the wages that they earn working there.
25 years ago the companies brought in cheap Gulf labor to break a bloated and overpaid union with too many ridiculous work rules. Now the NYC pay is still about they same as it was 25 years ago. Ironically, some of the wages are now higher in the Gulf than they are in NYC.
Good thing I don't have to live in the NY metro area. I would rather die first, or commit Hari-Kari. I HATE New York. But I LOVE the wages and working conditions. I absolutely LOVE the ports and sea conditions. And most controversially: The calibre of boatman is far superior (both WH, ER and deck)
tugboatchief (July 1st, 2012)
For some strange reason that I certainly don't understand, a great many people (10 million?) choose to live in NYC. Its crowded, expensive, and well . . . very very urban. That certainly wouldn't be for me. Nor do I think that anyone should be required to live there, or anywhere else.
NY harbor work, and harbor workers, are essential to the functioning of the port and the city. The same in any city, but even more so in NY. The people who live in NYC ought to be able to a make a living doing jobs that exist in NYC. The same for anyplace else. I cannot see how it is a good thing for jobs in any place to pay less than the local cost of living, so that low cost workers must be imported from hundreds of miles away. Once the traditional local employers start replacing their skilled local workers with cheap labor from hundreds of miles away, what's next? Even cheaper labor from Mexico, Eastern Europe, or the Philippines?