Please Interpret

**barley** · May 15th, 2012, 06:45 PM

"Master of Steam or Motor Vessels of not more than 1600 Gross Tons" Does this mean a Master any tonnage up to 1600, i.e., Master 500GRT?

**AHTS Master** · May 15th, 2012, 07:15 PM

I would say YES,

**osvmarek** · May 15th, 2012, 08:14 PM

I will second that.

**c.captain** · May 15th, 2012, 08:50 PM

which actually does mean a vessel of exactly 1600 tons (not 1599 like so many vessels) but it can't be sail powered! I always wondered how one could get unlimited tonnage sail added to their license...now that would be a rare one!

Also does it now automatically get the 3000ITC tonnage as well nowdays since STCW has no 1600ton license?

**Capt. Phoenix** · May 15th, 2012, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by barley

"Master of Steam or Motor Vessels of not more than 1600 Gross Tons" Does this mean a Master any tonnage up to 1600, i.e., Master 500GRT?

Really? You have to ask this question?

**c.captain** · May 16th, 2012, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by Capt. Phoenix

Really? You have to ask this question?

Now that you mention it...that was a pretty doofuslike question to ask! I completely missed a fabulous chance to use my pointy stick. Damned, I must be getting dementia or something but I forgot what it was.

**BMCSRetired** · May 16th, 2012, 12:09 PM

If we had all been thinking we could have come up with some 4 paragraph explanation that would have echoed forever n the annals of wild goose chases. Wild Geese Chases? Wild Geese Chase?

**richard8000milesaway** · May 16th, 2012, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by c.captain

I always wondered how one could get unlimited tonnage sail added to their license...now that would be a rare one!

To get unlimited tonnage sail on your license you must ship on aux sail vessels above 1600 tons of which there are only a handful. Conundrum.

All my licenses including my present chief mates/1600 master license have steam motor and auxiliary sail because I did - and continue to - sail on "the big rigs" in my free time.
When my UL master comes through in a few months it will be a"true" master mariners license and, according to a couple old salts who have it, one of the very few issued by the USCG.

it's really only good for sailing the big rigs/tall ships where the $$ is poor but the seamanship and female companionship are remarkable.

**BMCSRetired** · May 16th, 2012, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by richard8000milesaway

it's really only good for sailing the big rigs/tall ships where the $$ is poor but the seamanship and female companionship are remarkable.

Luckily for me the female companionship I have is remarkable and I have been lucky enough to be married to her and she has stuck with me for 27 years.

**cavisboung** · May 17th, 2012, 01:16 AM

I always wondered how one could get unlimited tonnage sail added to their license

**bayou343** · May 30th, 2012, 07:02 PM

Unlimited master in a "few months" huh? Pretty amazing since you just got your chiefs last fall and are sailing as third. Where did you get your documentation, Jay Heater?