Costa Concordia Disaster - What happened?

[cappy208]

The people in charge of producing the document seem to have concluded that someone slightly more senior than the Maitre d'hotel should be on the bridge in order to do the screaming, that's all.

Absolutely amazing that the Maitre d'hotel seemed to be the only one who realized there was something amiss in the approach. Too bad he will likely be made a scapegoat of to detract from the real issues.

[Heiwa]

The most important objective of any cruise is that the cargo, that has already paid to come aboard, spends even more or all they have left aboard. In order to fullfil this simple and basic objective all officers shall ensure that the cargo is happy and spends ... aboard. Evidently other more physical intercourses and close encounters with the cargo are encouraged! Just keep the cargo happy! Aboard! Navigation? 2/0 and an OS on the bridge can do that. It seems Costa forgot the basics!

[Capt.Felix]

The most important objective of any cruise is that the cargo, that has already paid to come aboard, spends even more or all they have left aboard. In order to fullfil this simple and basic objective all officers shall ensure that the cargo is happy and spends ... aboard. Evidently other more physical intercourses and close encounters with the cargo are encouraged! Just keep the cargo happy! Aboard! Navigation? 2/0 and an OS on the bridge can do that. It seems Costa forgot the basics!

wow, this thread still going..

[Heiwa]

wow, this thread still going..

And it is cheaper than ever - http://cruiseweb.com/cruise-critic-deal-of-the-week.htm

[Bern43Yo]

what is available in the media.

[callpor]

Costa Concordia preliminary report

A copy of the preliminary report in English can be viewed here:- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3544291/Ital...0Concordia.pdf

[Kennebec Captain]

The Yaw Radius is such that the Ship is situated 0.5 miles south-west off the planned course - much more close to the coast compared to the planned route

- From the report - looks like they had a track line laid down but misjudged the amount of advance.

K.C.

[Heiwa]

The Italian preliminary investigation report at http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3544291/Ital...0Concordia.pdf is good. OK, OK, you do not collide with reefs or whatever on the sea floor. Either you run aground and that's it or you just contact whatever is on the sea floor and sail on. Which Costa Concordia did. Who has ever heard of a ship colliding with the bottom of the sea?

After the contact three damaged compartments, #05, 06, 07 were up-flooded and the Costa Concordia both floated and was stable. Very GOOD! So the unfortunate contact didn't cause any serious damage.
So, what happened then? Read the report. It is good.
We are told that a fourth (!!!) watertight compartment, #04, the compressor room, was flooded through a leaking watertight door and , as a result, the ship then capsized, as GZ<0.
A leaking watertight door? Between an electric motor propulsion room (room #05) and a galley compressor room (room #04).

What idiot did fit a leaking watertight door there? On a €500 million cruise ship! The answer is maybe at http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news8.htm

[AustralianPilot]

1. "Touristic sailing course up to a bathymetric contour line at 10 metres depth" ????????????? 16 knots. 8 metre draft. Hmmmmmmm.
2. The overlaid leglines on the ENC are well outside the 10m contour.
3. "Radars under observation". What about all available means? ECDIS??

AP

[cappy208]

What about all available means? ECDIS??

AP

How about the friggin' windows! Lookout isn't just an adverb, it is a job description and an expectation. But not when the 'hot chick' is around!

[AustralianPilot]

How about the friggin' windows! Lookout isn't just an adverb, it is a job description and an expectation. But not when the 'hot chick' is around!

You call that hot.....................??????You must be due for leave............................

[Steamer]

Lookout isn't just an adverb ...

It never was. It is either a noun or a verb.

[cappy208]

It never was. It is either a noun or a verb.

Off the top of my head the noun would be:

Lookout: someone who is on the look out for something.

The verb would be:

Lookout: the act of 'Looking out'

or The Adverb as used in ordinary seamans lingo:


Lookout, Her 'jigglers' are SO huge they are going to slap you in the face!


Fraqat I had to work that into a sentence! Too damn funny not to try!

[cappy208]

You call that hot.....................??????You must be due for leave............................

The Romanian dancer????? Guess I am older than you!!!!! (or just not as selective!!) I thought she would've been quite a good port in the storm. (so to speak)

[Heiwa]

1. "Touristic sailing course up to a bathymetric contour line at 10 metres depth" ????????????? 16 knots. 8 metre draft. Hmmmmmmm.

AP

It was also 21.45 hrs, pitch dark and +5°C outside and liitle, lit up port of Gorbio hidden behind the coastline.so quite difficult to get some manual bearings of any kind ... and little or nothing of interest to look at for the passengers ... on the bridge or anywhere. Touristic sailing ?

[AustralianPilot]

The Romanian dancer????? Guess I am older than you!!!!! (or just not as selective!!) I thought she would've been quite a good port in the storm. (so to speak)

I believe this to be her dance genre.............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWd7r-6IKQc

[cappy208]

That's disgusting. Next time my wife does that sort of dancing I am going to DEMAND she stop in 30 minutes (or so)!

[AustralianPilot]

Woosh..................

[cappy208]

Reading over the salvor plan this rang a bell. It took several weeks to siphon through the grey matter but this tactic has been done before!!!


Nantucke Camels

Albeit not on such a grand scale, but effectually the same concept.

[mikk0]

The report makes just two statements under the heading "Preliminary remarks".

First, that "sounding the General Emergency alarm and taking timely steps to abandon ship" were delayed (<-- OK, pretty obvious really)

Second: "Organization of the abandonment of the ship was on the whole appropriate to manage an emergency such as the one that occurred at [sic] Giglio Island" (<-- if they mean that all the deck officers (save one who remained) got off the ship in short order leaving hundreds of passengers behind, yes, the abandonment went like clockwork. On the other hand, if they think that leaving the passengers on their own to fend for themselves was a good idea, then no, it wasn't a good idea, the ship's officers and crew are supposed to organize and assist and care for their passengers in such a situation, and these officers and most of the crew did no such thing, and there is ample eye witness testimony to that effect.)

For the report's sake it would have been better to have left out "Preliminary remarks" altogether, writing two cheap sentences, one of which is patent rubbish, in large print, demeans the whole report.