Reply With QuoteLooks like a few of them are doing well or getting better anyway! Try Chouest, Hornbeck, Candies, or Harvey (they are building 6 new 298')
Good luck! I know the feeling!!!
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gCaptain Crew
what companies in the gulf
what companies are strong in the gulf right now? It seems like every day I am worried about getting layed off. I have been with my company for over 3 years and seems like things are getting worse and worse. I am tired of being worried if I get to go back to work.
Old Salt
Looks like a few of them are doing well or getting better anyway! Try Chouest, Hornbeck, Candies, or Harvey (they are building 6 new 298')
Good luck! I know the feeling!!!
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Does Harvey Gulf have large osv's?
Old Salt
Yes, They have a new built program going. The fist one should be in the water soon if not already. They are 298' OSVs and they are calling them the Tiger class. They have a story on the last issue of Work Boat Magazine.Originally Posted by Capt. Schmitt
gCaptain Crew
Hey PR..Are they unlimited tonnage vessels?
Old Salt
I don't want to lie to you! But if I recall correctly the article said more than 3000ITC and less than 6000 ITC.
Old Salt
Re: what companies in the gulf
PR-9, you are correct. Nothing unlimited tonnage. Even the multi purpose vessel they will be building is under 6,000 tons and classed as an OSV.
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Um, what? Under 6000 tons does not mean it isn't unlimited. Anything over 3000 gt itc is unlimited...
gCaptain Crew
Damn!! I finally got my 1600/3000 master oceans last year and now it's like the modern day version of the 100 ton!! I don't want to go back to school damnit!!!!!
Old Salt
Re: what companies in the gulf
Why would you have to go back to school? It's an assessment program.
WWAD? "What Would Anchorman Do?"
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Re: what companies in the gulf
Not really. The term "unlimited" only speaks in the context of licensing. You never walk on a vessel and see tonnage as "unlimited" on the COI. Back to licensing, no, it's not unlimited because you don't need an "unlimited license" to operate it - a trade restricted license is sufficient. Minus that fact, you would be correct, but the discussion was specifically about OSV class.
"Captain standard operating procedure for decision making is to do what feels right to you at the time, and then to give logical sounding justifications for what you were already going to do anyway" -
gCaptain Crew
Hhhhmmmmm...Does that have to do with the new regs, or should I say lack of? I've been reading the threads on here but still am not 100% sure what all the details are. So are you saying that you can go 1600 to unlimited on assessments? No testing?
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Yes there is testing, but you don't go to school for that. It's the lack of $30,000 in management level classes. You have the option to take those if you want.
"Captain standard operating procedure for decision making is to do what feels right to you at the time, and then to give logical sounding justifications for what you were already going to do anyway" -
Old Salt
I think Diesel was referring to the assessments required to obtain a 6000 ITC Master OSV. If you hold a 1600 GRT you will have to complete a few assessments and have your company issue a Certificate that says that you completed a Large OSV training.
Also I believe that to be class as an OSV (L class) vessel do not have to be under 6000ITC anymore. So I can only assume that they will start to issue Master OSV without a tonnage limitation. But we will see!!
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That is correct, HR3619 changed the definition of OSV. No telling when you will see that codified in the CFR, years maybe?!. You can now be classed as an OSV over 6,000 tons, but you have more requirements to be able to do that.
A Master OSV is restricted to 3,000 tons ITC. Once you get the large OSV, the 3,000 ton restriction comes off. Then you just have a Master OSV (the assumption is 6,000 based on OSV design limit, but some licenses do have the tonnage limitation spelled out), but that in itself will not allow you to work on the larger OSV's once one is built over 6,000 tons. HR 3619 was explicit in it's authorization and the career path for those that currently have large OSV licenses, to work on OSV's over 6,000 tons. So, you will have to get one before being authorized for the other. It will be a stepping stone process, and probably the logical reason on why the Coast Guard felt it was a sensible approach. So, expect only a chosen few to be able to get that license because of the focus of the program and only one vessel currently under construction. Either way, the mariner will more than likely take the parallel unrestricted route since it will be better facilitated in the proposed rule making - provided the final rule stays true to the proposed.
"Captain standard operating procedure for decision making is to do what feels right to you at the time, and then to give logical sounding justifications for what you were already going to do anyway" -
gCaptain Crew
Thanks anchorman...That's as I thought (from reading on here). The classes I would need would be study/prep courses as I'm terrible at studying on my own!
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