Just lost a great fiber optic cable lay job in the central Pacific because I do not have an ENG1 Certificate. I know the seafarers in the rest of the world (at least Europe) seem to have them, but can they be obtained in the US and how does one go about it? Anybody else out there run across this problem?
Piss on the bloody lousy USCG for being so far behind the rest of the world on the certification of mariners...no wonder foreign ship operating companies won't touch us! Once the US used to lead the world on matters maritime, now we don't know our preverbial asses from our elbows!
Hey, I had one of those a couple times for an English cruise ship I worked on, I got one of them in Ft Lauderdale, Florida at a small seamans medical center, cant remember the name. It was one of the lamest physicals I ever did, but maybe that was because of my position onboard(not a deck or engine officer). Seriously, it took about 20mins. good luck
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Don't get apoplectic when you walk into one of those places and find the people there getting ENG1 certificates are dirty yachtie types that you seem to dislike so much.
Let them who know not how to pray, go to sea.
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Flyer69 (August 7th, 2010)
A big thank you to JeffRox for posting the list of physicians in the US who do ENG1 exams. I just wished I had asked this question a week ago when I was still in consideration for the job. One is very close to where I live...damn!
Here is the UK information and the white list of medical certificates they will accept: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/1815.pdf
It works both ways, look at each country's maritime authority White List." ... foreign shipowners (especiall;y European) consider Americans not fully STCW '95 and as a result, our STCW certificates are not considered as valid."
Your wish is coming true. That is why the CG is changing all those lower level licenses. We got a bad name for sending domestic licenses on international voyages and annoying port states all over the world."... I would rather have to pass the higher standards of the STCW as written and have that certificate recognized around the world."
Not that it will do anyone much good to argue with a potential employer but it is flag state that determines which medical certificate they will accept. Unless the flag of the vessel is UK, most others, even the Red Ensign Group of flags will accept a USCG medical certificate. The UK probably will soon since the CG has raised the medical standards. The prudent mariner will look at the flag of the vessel and determine which certificates and endorsements are needed and which are accepted on their white list.
Whether you will get anywhere with HR telling them your medical is just fine now is another story altogether, they don't read regulations, they just follow a checklist provided by someone else who doesn't really know what is acceptable and what isn't.
Jamaica will issue you a ENG1 medical certificate, mon.
Take a vacation and get a physical. Jamaica is on the "white list" but I wouldn't make a big issue of that while down there.
Here is exactly what I am referring to...
They won't accept the USCG STCW/License as proof of medical fitnessMaster on Pipelay Vessel, Subsea 7
Experience and Education (required)
- Class 1 Master (Unlimited)
- DP certificate (Unlimited)
- Valid Medical Certificate
- Training & certification in accordance with the Subsea 7 Training Matrices for the vessel
- Experience from pipe lay operations