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    Hello,

    Can someone tell me about the "Red Flag" license which is available to mariners?

    What are the requirements for obtaining this ticket? I have heard about this from a few people but they lack to give me any insight about this.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seaboyblue View Post
    Hello,

    Can someone tell me about the "Red Flag" license which is available to mariners?
    If you are referring to the UK MCA yacht certificates, they are not valid for any use other than yacht service. They are not a commercial license and you cannot use one to work on a merchant vessel. The training requirements and sea time are virtually non-existent so they are popular with backpackers and others looking for Summer vacation work.
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    You can also get a commercial-level license from the MCA. They recognize the US unlimited license and will issue an OOW Certificate and/or a senior level certificate with proof of taking a UK maritime law course (and obviously a 1st/CE, or CM/Captain USA license). Who knows if a UK company would hire a US citizen though. Even if they do, there will doubtfully be any pension or insurance benefits. But maybe sailing on something not built over 20 years ago would be worth it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NewEngr View Post
    You can also get a commercial-level license from the MCA. They recognize the US unlimited license and will issue an OOW Certificate and/or a senior level certificate with proof of taking a UK maritime law course (and obviously a 1st/CE, or CM/Captain USA license). Who knows if a UK company would hire a US citizen though. Even if they do, there will doubtfully be any pension or insurance benefits. But maybe sailing on something not built over 20 years ago would be worth it...
    What they will issue is a CEC (Certificate of Equivalent Competency). In addition to taking the UK MCA Business and Law course you will probably have to undergo an oral exam.

    3.4 USA applicants who hold 500gt and 3000gt
    (International Tonnage) Certificates of
    Competency will need to meet the
    requirements set out in Annex 8 by taking
    an Oral Examination of Competency at an
    MCA Marine Office. This is in addition
    to meeting the other requirements of
    this MGN.
    http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mgn221-2.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by seaboyblue View Post
    Hello,

    Can someone tell me about the "Red Flag" license which is available to mariners?

    What are the requirements for obtaining this ticket? I have heard about this from a few people but they lack to give me any insight about this.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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    I believe that you are referring to the "Red Ensign", which is a flag that originated in the early 17th century as a British ensign flown by the Royal Navy and later specifically by British merchantmen.

    In 1854, the Merchant Shipping Act included a specific provision that the Red Ensign was the appropriate flag for a British merchantman. This provision was repeated in successive British shipping legislation (i.e., 1889, 1894 (section 73) and 1995).

    So the "Red Ensign" is the flag flown by the British Merchant Navy, and the "Red Ensign" license is a synonym of a UK license.
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    Not just Brits... Bermuda, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, Guernsey and Isle of Man all use the red duster.
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