Reply With QuoteUhhm....Ewwww.
Psoriasis? I don't think your health is in jeopardy, but damn. He can't get enough relief to stop even the flaking?
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Where do you draw the line?
I am getting ready to go back to work for 5 weeks. Two of these five weeks I am going to be sharing a room with a guy that has a medical condition that causes his skin to have sores and flake off. It is bad enough to share the bridge with this guy. His hands are flaking, red and open sores are visible. When he leaves we sweep the bridge and brush off the consoles. There is a pile of skin flakes. If you look on the bottoms of your shoes there is skin all over the soles. We have chairs with wheels. These wheel get caked up skin on them and it accumulates to the point all the flakes of skin adheres to each other creating a large flake of skin. My question is do I have to just live with this? Everyone of us (bridge personnel) has complained about this and the management seems to have their hands tied or simply refuses to deal with it. Is my health in jeapordy? What are your thoughts?
There are those who can and there are those who will, which one will you be today?
Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
Uhhm....Ewwww.
Psoriasis? I don't think your health is in jeopardy, but damn. He can't get enough relief to stop even the flaking?
gCaptain Crew
Re: Where do you draw the line?
More likely eczema, can be treated with medication. Father-in-Law had it much like your guy, don't know what he was prescribed, but it cleared up amazingly.
Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
I have resolved issues like this before in my career. previously, before say 1995, it was a grin and bear it situation but today with safety as the main concern the tide has changed. If you and your bridge team are unable to concentrate 100% on your job due to the interference of someone's personal issues, then your company has an obligation under their SMS to change the personnel. If your direct supervisor is dragging his/her feet then use the company's DPA. this is not a personal vendetta, this is a safety issue: never forget that the safety of everyone onboard requires you and your team to have 100% focus.
drug/alcohol abuse (as compared to the pre 1990's levels) was largely controlled by SMS.
now it is the turn of chronic medical issues as witnessed by companies screening of HIV, epilepsy, chronic heart disease, etc.
the next focus of this will no doubt be the obesity epidemic, ergo the new USCG medical forms.
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Re: Where do you draw the line?
Just put all that crap in a bowl and add milk. Enjoy!Originally Posted by Capt. Lee
"Captain standard operating procedure for decision making is to do what feels right to you at the time, and then to give logical sounding justifications for what you were already going to do anyway" -
Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
My bowl of ice cream is not tasting so good right now.
Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
I thought I had something...now I'm just drawing a blank.
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Re: Where do you draw the line?
It is not Psoriasis or Eczema. This guy is a medical curiosity. They hold seminars so doctors from around the world can study this guy. I am serious this guy is horrible. Really what can I do?
There are those who can and there are those who will, which one will you be today?
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Re: Where do you draw the line?
Rub him down with Vaseline. I'm sure you can spare him a gallon or two.
"Captain standard operating procedure for decision making is to do what feels right to you at the time, and then to give logical sounding justifications for what you were already going to do anyway" -
Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
Be thankful he is not the cook.
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Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
Could be lupus, worked with a guy that was not quite that bad at old Hornbeck. Not catching but horrible to look at...........
"What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!" Lazurus Long
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Re: Where do you draw the line?
sweep up a weeks worth of skin and send it to the personal department,,, just do not include your name,,,,,,
this has to be a health violation somewhere,,, if he eats in the dining hall it must be going into the food if there is a serving line or salad bar,,,, THAT is a health violation,,,,,,dead skin in the food,,,, as bad a hair in the food,,,good luck,,, maybe buy him some full body disposable paint suits for work attire with a nice hair net
Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
Discoid lupus erythematosus is a chronic skin disorder in which a red, raised rash appears on the face, scalp, or elsewhere. The raised areas may become thick and scaly and may cause scarring. The rash may last for days or years and may recur. A small percentage of people with discoid lupus have or develop SLE later.sweep up a weeks worth of skin and send it to the personal department,,, just do not include your name,,,,,,
this has to be a health violation somewhere,,, if he eats in the dining hall it must be going into the food if there is a serving line or salad bar,,,, THAT is a health violation,,,,,,dead skin in the food,,,, as bad a hair in the food,,,good luck,,, maybe buy him some full body disposable paint suits for work attire with a nice hair net
"What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!" Lazurus Long
Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
Richard is absolutely correct about the vessel safety issue, not to mention the food and sanitation problems it poses. Your crew must do something collectively to resolve it. That would be a very difficult thing to put up with. Good Luck with that Capt. Lee.
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Re: Where do you draw the line?
That is another issue. He coats himself with lotion and there are lotion smears all over everything he touches. Especially in his room. It looks like the trail of a slug. This guy is horrible!!!
There are those who can and there are those who will, which one will you be today?
gCaptain Crew
Re: Where do you draw the line?
Sounds horrible...reminds me of a guy I used to sail with...he doesn't have a long gray mullet that he braids and a name that starts with HI and ends with LO does he?
gCaptain Crew
Re: Where do you draw the line?
With over 5,000 gCaptain members now, he could well be reading this, which may or may not be a good thing.
After reading everyone's concern he could do the honorable thing and walk away from the vessel leaving you in peace, or maybe he could be upset and considering something worse...like jumping over the side with a canon ball or, now that he knows who his cabin mate is, something more sinister when you are sleeping.
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Re: Where do you draw the line?
Capt . Lee, I can sure sympathize with your situation..I am still amazed how inconsiderate people can be when living in close quarters with others..You would think that the guy would be busting his ass policing up his own mess...
I have an engineer that is the nicest older guy you could ever meet..Grandfatherly type, but boy can he make a mess ever where he goes..It affects me a little bit more, as I take care of keeping the living spaces clean, finally I pulled him off to the side and showed him what he was doing and asked him to help keep the place tidy..It worked...So maybe buy this guy a dust buster for the next hitch and show him how to use it, also maybe he could wear some disposable gloves for the vaseline problem....At least then he will have an idea that there is a problem...Some people are just not situationally aware of how their living habits affect others...
Old Salt
Re: Where do you draw the line?
So maybe buy this guy a dust buster for the next hitch and show him how to use it, also maybe he could wear some disposable gloves for the vaseline problem....At least then he will have an idea that there is a problem...Some people are just not situationally aware of how their living habits affect others...
An excellent idea Shellback, and I think that the company should also talk to the unfortunate guy as it could not be construed as discrimination in the work place. He is employed after all...............
"What a wonderful world it is that has girls in it!" Lazurus Long
gCaptain Crew
Re: Where do you draw the line?
I'm sitting with some quite senior people at a very major Supply Boat operator, and I couldn't resist running this by them . .
They said:
1) They've all experienced and delt with similar situations. (As have I)
2) It's a heath and sanitation issue.
3) Send a formal letter to the Company Safety Officer detailing this as a sanitation and health issue
3) If Management will not deal with it, then under your authority as Master, you should discuss this with him directly, following all requirements for written documentation. If he can not or will not address it, then send him to the Office - If the Company doesn't like it, contact USCG.
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