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    Question The term "Master Mariner"

    There seems to be a bit of confused information about the term "Master Mariner" and I'd like to see what the forum members think about it.

    Most dictionaries define a master mariner as a ship's master. Wikipedia says that in the British tradition, it means someone with a master unlimited oceans ticket. In the US, Wiki continues, says that "Master Mariner" is a person with the Master Unlimited ocean as well as unlimited Chief Engineer.

    From my experience at sea, is that when you say "master mariner" you mean the Master and CE tickets, which means that there are very few indeed (I have met two so far). When I go back to my academy, I see that anyone who has a Master Unlimited is called "master mariner."

    In my opinion, you use the term "captain" for the person in command of a vessel no matter the size, "master" for those with have a master unlimited license, and "master mariner" for those with both top licenses.

    So what says the board?

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    We've been down this road before...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capt_Anonymous View Post
    We've been down this road before...
    I did a search for "master mariner" and didn't come up with a hit that defined the term. Do you have a thread you can point me too? I don't want to duplicate a thread.

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    Here. While not exactly the answer to the question you've asked, it was a pretty spirited exchange in the same vein. Enjoy.
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    "In my opinion, you use the term "captain" for the person in command of a vessel no matter the size, "master" for those with have a master unlimited license, and "master mariner" for those with both top licenses.

    So what says the board?"

    If you have both USCG gives you a black helmet and light saber...

    Captain Pete has both- doesn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordinaryseaman View Post
    Captain Pete has both- doesn't he?
    As a matter of fact, I believe he does.
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    Capt_Anonymous,

    I don't even know why you are on this thread...You can't even sail as an AB>>
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    "Master Mariner" is a person with the Master Unlimited ocean as well as unlimited Chief Engineer."

    That's my understanding also. Last one I met was a woman working for MSC.
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    I've heard the term Master Mariner, but never thought it meant Master & Chief Engineer, but it makes sense.

    I was taught that a Captain is only called as such once they have actually sailed as a Captain, regardless of the tonnage. We had an instructor at school who earned her Master's license and demanded to be called Captain - but since she had never sailed as one, nobody ever addressed her as such. I guess by extension the same thing applies to Master, but I've never really thought about it, since I don't call anybody "Master" as a title - it sounds more like something to put at the end of an email.
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    Master Mariner is a term that I have never read on any document from the USCG. I would guess that some loser decided to over-emphasize their title for land lubbers, and it just so happen to strike conversation between seaman to figure out what in the hell they're talking about. Case-in-point.
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    I'm not too sure about the Mariner but Master is what I call my wife when I'm home!
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    I agree with Anchorman and 2nd Capt. Lee. What fun. I personally don't consider myself a capt amongst the maritime field even though I have a little 100 ton and would be the one to blame if something went wrong. It drives me crazy when people are insistent on there title .... blah, blah, blah... I guess if I had to vote it would got to the unlimited in both departments.
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