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    What did the Pilots Association do to get on your bad side? You obviously have issues with their organization. I'm not picking a fight or attempting to defend anyone. I could give a rat's ass about them but, You made a post that you seem to feel strongly about and I want to know if you have an agenda and if so, what it is.

    I have know some to be a little egotistic and self centered but I guess that comes with the territory. It's not like Work boat Captains are above the occasional tirade of self absorbency.

    So... what gives? You get pushed out of the channel by an out bound deep draft back in the day, pass the pilots test and never got called?

    There is always more to the story... Lets have it.
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    Oilveoil.

    What did the Pilots Association do to get on your bad side? You obviously have issues with their organization. I'm not picking a fight or attempting to defend anyone. I could give a rat's ass about them but, You made a post that you seem to feel strongly about and I want to know if you have an agenda and if so, what it is.

    I have know some to be a little egotistic and self centered but I guess that comes with the territory. It's not like Work boat Captains are above the occasional tirade of self absorbency.

    So... what gives? You get pushed out of the channel by an out bound deep draft back in the day, pass the pilots test and never got called?

    There is always more to the story... Lets have it.
    OK...HERE GOES

    http://www.ntsb.gov/Dockets/Marine/D...004/394475.pdf

    http://commerce.senate.gov/public/_files/PGKSenatetestimony3408.pdf

    http://www.professionalmariner.com/M...A8EF336D003296
    ( NOTE THE DATE )

    http://dockets.justia.com/docket/cou...ase_id-635074/
    ( NOTE THE DATE )


    Thanks for the reply. First, their testimony for one see above) for the first time in NTSB Investigative panel history - someone actually asks about "political process and contributions"...." How much - more or less than the other guy", as if that subject has ANY bearing on the investigation. Second, just look over their testimony....ie their answer to panel....THEN compare what was released via FOIA in the Professional Mariner as mentioned earlier.

    You sound like a conscientious Mariner...clearly anyone who goes to sea and is subject to the Federal Laws in regard to Federally Mandated Drug Testing Compliance ( which by the way the majority of us are all for) would get a little ( just a little) pissed off over both the arrogance and "ignorance of the law" claim when it comes to this subject matter.

    If we can not be ensured the USCG will be keeping them on even keel....you can bet the P&I Insurance and US Insurance companies can....and will. Especially NOW. What is is the works is as follows: Insurance Companies can ask for all associations DAPI AUDIT. This annual and required document is a Federally mandated Drug Testing Compliance Audit....done exclusively by the USCG ( which is what the P.M. article is referring to). If you were an Insurer of their pilot boats....and discovered come time to renew their policy....and it was discovered that they failed their Dapi...."would you insure" ? Absolutely not !

    Here is one for you.....how many "Associations" within the entire US pilotage system have a clean Dapi? This is being looked at my friend. Better yet - how would you like to be be the insurer who just got "had" with the P.M. release ?
    Last edited by oliveoil; March 8th, 2009 at 11:54 AM. Reason: 100% TRANSPARENCY ON THIS SUBJECT MATTER - LONG OVERDUE
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