Deepwater Horizon - Transocean Oil Rig Fire

[johnebe]

The new camera ROV in the water has moved off the gauge location and is now clamped on the riser again. Much better lighting and camera. Also shooting heavy still shots with strobe.

Can you explain why the lone video feed they give us is usually at such a ridiculous low frame rate...? Is there a purpose in this over full motion 30fps...?

[pumpjack hand]

Ha! No. An engineer will say "your contract says you will complete this xxx to 12,345 feet, but you only went to 12,330. Why can't you go that extra 15 feet? The Phd won't have any questions because they know everything already, and will "decline to participate" if other egos they have a problem with are present or acknowledged. Geologists (without phd) will be tolerated, as long as their insights don't disturb the narrative as dictated by the engineers. Hands on drilling experts will be "tolerated" in "the room" only if they speak when asked to dance and supply the necessary ambiance/"crusty authenticity"/comic value.
Have I gotten that dynamic about right geodude/cm1?

an old joke: So, an Engineer, a Geologist & Geophysicist are in a room with the Boss. The Boss asks the Engineer “What’s 2+2?” The Engineer replies “4.0000″. Then the Boss as the Geologist the same question. The Geologist replies” Oh, somewhere between 3 and 5″. Finally, the Boss ask the Geophysicist the same question. The Geophysicist replies ” What would you like it to be?”

[CPTdrillersails]

It has also been pointed out numerous times that when he/she throws in new and conflicting information that we would all be VERY happy to consider the information if given the source. Rlanasa has been asked numerous times to provide links or references regarding posts, but has not done so yet. On the up side though, some of the other forum members have spotted his/her exact words on other forums as part of posts by different individuals. . . . even if only the parts of the post which support his/her viewpoints were copied & pasted into this forum without being noted as being a direct quote from someone else.

Aka an astroturf operation. Google it....

[dumgeek]

the feed is provided by akami.com and most likely it's set to about 6 fps simply due to bandwidth demand. I'm sure there's probably over a hundred thousand computers got it running 24/7. The framerate is nbd, the real devil is in the camera target &lighting.

The real url is:
http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:46245.asx?bkup=46260

If you click the link it should launch in windows media player directly.

[alvis]

Can you explain why the lone video feed they give us is usually at such a ridiculous low frame rate...? Is there a purpose in this over full motion 30fps...?

I would imagine it's a question of Internet bandwidth. Think of how many people are watching this around the world. When the spillcam first went up, everyone was having trouble in watching video because, I assume, their streaming video server didn't have sufficient bandwidth to the Internet to support that many people. They can increase the video compression so the video stream doesn't take up as much network bandwidth; which would make the picture more "blocky." And/or they can decrease the frame rate, or reduce the video size. I've been using WMRecorder to archive the streaming video and they've up'ed the compression since the first couple of days too.

[johnebe]

You notice that Rlanasa hws never revealed what they do inside or outside of the industry.

My guess is that we're supposed to infer that his initials are RLA...and that he works for NASA...

[dumgeek]

yeah this is a 50kbps stream at 320x240, and the quality of the image is excellent. I'd definitely rather have the apparent 2fps stuff now with high quality than an ugly image at high speed. Also helps for folks in the sticks still on phone modems. (lol... what's that?)

[alvis]

yeah this is a 50kbps stream at 320x240, and the quality of the image is excellent. I'd definitely rather have the apparent 2fps stuff now with high quality than an ugly image at high speed. Also helps for folks in the sticks still on phone modems. (lol... what's that?)

It looks like they're encoding it using a variable bit rate. WMRecorder jumps around from 0 kbps to around 72 kbps.

[Coastie Girl]

Seriously? What is your issue? Is anyone else annoyed by these Simon Cowell antics?

I just want to learn...everyone is entitled to post without CM1's rhetoric...chill pill. Or, chill 'spacer' as was clarified in hearings today.

-af

You are an undisputed idiot. go to the post #1231 & tell us what yourinterpretation of that video is. Until then know your roll & shut your mouth.

[alvis]

My guess is that we're supposed to infer that his initials are RLA...and that he works for NASA...

http://www.abbreviations.com/RLA

RLA is also an abbreviation for Repair Level Analysis. And apparently NASA uses this abbreviation?

[dumgeek]

alvis yeah you're right that would be the norm, also means time to save on bw depending upon frame to frame compression needs. You set the maximum and the encoder does the rest on the fly. rarely if ever have I seen anything set with a constant bit rate since the early days of digital video.
cheers.

[dumbone]

I am curious about this too. I'm wondering what the knowledgable people think about this and could it/would it have anything to do with the well Mr. Williams spoke of in his 60 Minute interview? The well they got stuck in and had to abandon and start again with the Macondo well? Anybody?

... Could this be slight-of-hand as in, "watch what my right hand is doing, don't look at my left hand"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGAoU1H2gMeemd

[company man 1]

No offense to you TBT& I thank you for your great contributions , but these guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. CNBS & MSNBS showing they know even less about oil than they do the stock market.

Thanks! Regarding Thief Zones: A formation encountered during drilling into which circulating fluids can be lost ... A near surface pocket or thief zone pathway or fractured layer of rock ... I found this below to be an excellent video interview to raise questions about the bad news "they" are not telling us perhaps? Could this be slight-of-hand as in, "watch what my right hand is doing, don't look at my left hand" play?
I try and share as best I can with all, as I hope to learn from your experienced minds and training myself. I know to beware of what I cannot know. None of us have a great deal of info offered us to work with.
YT upload date below was May 26th ... any commentary would be appreciated, whether if you find this suspicion on target or not. At 2:44 the speaker seems to suggest the possibility of a natural fracture alongside the well, outflowing path of least resistance thereby releasing the majority of the spill unseen, in a way thay can't be topkilled like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDGAoU1H2gMeemd

[dumbone]

Coastie Girl, if you've been following from the beginning - you'd "learn" that the most annoying person on this thread is RLANASA. What you're quoting from CM1 here is pretty much the consensus - especially over the last couple of days.

Seriously? What is your issue? Is anyone else annoyed by these Simon Cowell antics?

I just want to learn...everyone is entitled to post without CM1's rhetoric...chill pill. Or, chill 'spacer' as was clarified in hearings today.

-af

[dumbone]

Ha! No offense taken. That's why I asked ... I wanted to know.

No offense to you TBT& I thank you for your great contributions , but these guys aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. CNBS showing they know even less about oil than they do the stock market.

[Corky]

They pulled the ROV to the surface?

Which one, there are 12 different ROVs out there at the last count they gave?

[dumgeek]

Seriously? What is your issue? Is anyone else annoyed by these Simon Cowell antics?

I just want to learn...everyone is entitled to post without CM1's rhetoric...chill pill. Or, chill 'spacer' as was clarified in hearings today.

-af

He is quite a character CG, but his knowledge level and experience is insane to say the least - between him and a lot of other o & g pros posting here without them the rest of us would still be in the dark, watching idiots @foxnews spew garbage about speknak or whatever the latest impeach obama thing is going on (@idiots I'm sick of these guys now for not covering this).

CM1's just getting quite a bit angry as I think he thinks that Rlanasa is a dis-info agent straight from BP, and is probably looking for a way to confirm it. I know he sounds quite uncontrolled/angry, but instead of focusing on his intense posts.... pay a little more attention to the person he's directing his anger towards, and exactly why. I give him a wide berth and don't complain because he has proven his worth time and time again with intelligent insight, and information that can be backed up from many sources.

fwiw, I'm not totally stupid, both my uncles were o & g men (operations vp's of major co's), I know a little bit plus one of my best geek buds is a programmer like myself that doubles as a petro-geologist, and knows a lot about what happens in the field (desk jockey I know... but he has 20+ years in this biz so I give him a lot of credit). These 3 people have helped me validate a lot that I've read here from CM1 and others as I go along forming my opinion about wtf is actually happening 5k feet below.

I can see what's going on here. I'm not calling anyone out as I don't have the in depth knowledge that seemingly rlanasa does (if it's real that is), and can't even compare with basic knowledge of a drilling rig from operators here in this forum. So, I think a lot of us sit back and let CM1 do it for us.

CM1's po'd. He indeed could lose his livelyhood due to the people that caused this incident. What better safe place than a forum where the biggest weapon is a keyboard behind an anonymous screen name against a suspected (but not confirmed) dis-info agent.

:-)

[company man 1]

Well, he would have experience in blocking things..

That's a funny right there.

[company man 1]

That's about it. I've worked for a few that thorougholy believe in if I want your opinion I'll give it to you.

Ha! No. An engineer will say "your contract says you will complete this xxx to 12,345 feet, but you only went to 12,330. Why can't you go that extra 15 feet? The Phd won't have any questions because they know everything already, and will "decline to participate" if other egos they have a problem with are present or acknowledged. Geologists (without phd) will be tolerated, as long as their insights don't disturb the narrative as dictated by the engineers. Hands on drilling experts will be "tolerated" in "the room" only if they speak when asked to dance and supply the necessary ambiance/"crusty authenticity"/comic value.
Have I gotten that dynamic about right geodude/cm1?

[rlanasa]

Which one, there are 12 different ROVs out there at the last count they gave?

The primary camera feed ROV. The BP stream was live as it came out the water. You could the lights of the armada out there on the surface.