USS vessel to become a USNS vessel...which one?

**UnRepKing** · December 30th, 2011, 03:09 PM

This is happening very soon. I suppose they will have to take off the guns, air-search radars, CIWS, etc...

What fun...our own ex-warship.

Where are they going to find the CIVMARs for this pet project? MSC may be streching itself a bit thin with this one.

Now...can you guess what ship will soon be painting on the MSC stack stripes?

**UnRepKing** · December 30th, 2011, 03:14 PM

We did this before right? USS GLOVER -> USNS GLOVER. An MSC Destoyer!

Yes Yes, I know about the AEs, AOEs, and ARSs we took, I don't consider those "warships".

**Xmsccapt(ret)** · December 30th, 2011, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by UnRepKing

We did this before right? USS GLOVER -> USNS GLOVER. An MSC Destoyer!

Yes Yes, I know about the AEs, AOEs, and ARSs we took, I don't consider those "warships".

Yea, another brilliant move, like command ships, tenders etc. Sure would be nice if Msc had real leadership... Other than hi ranking naval officers trying to put feathers in their cap for the CNO.

**KennyW1983** · January 2nd, 2012, 08:17 PM

What purpose would an unarmed ex-destroyer serve for MSC? It cant haul anything useful for them.

**Jeffrox** · January 3rd, 2012, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by KennyW1983

What purpose would an unarmed ex-destroyer serve for MSC? It cant haul anything useful for them.

Just guessing here. Test platform, target, training ship, etc...

**KneelbeforeZod!** · January 3rd, 2012, 03:24 AM

Originally Posted by UnRepKing

We did this before right? USS GLOVER -> USNS GLOVER. An MSC Destoyer!

Yes Yes, I know about the AEs, AOEs, and ARSs we took, I don't consider those "warships".

It was a frigate.

**DeckApe** · January 3rd, 2012, 03:50 AM

They can replace many of the deck, steward and engineering rates with CIVMARs but keep the combat rates USN. This is no different then the Mount Whitney (LCC 20). CIVMARs are cheaper then a gaggle of USN, their families, pensions and benefits.

**seadog6608** · January 3rd, 2012, 12:06 PM

They used the Glover as a survey vessel.. T-AGS if my memory serves.

**Jeffrox** · January 4th, 2012, 04:10 AM

This is from a friend at MSC:
"We've been "requested" to man up the USS Ponce, which is an old piece of shit LPD. There was a study done to see if our civmar engineers could run the plant better than the Navy. Never heard about the outcome, then I saw where the program got canx. The whole thing is about the fact that the Navy can't safely run the steam engine rooms. They've been getting blasted during OPPEs and INSURVs.

So anyway, magically the program is back on again with an extremely high priority and a very ambitious timeline for MSC taking over the ship. My read is that somebody high up noticed we fixed then operated the fucked up plants on the 2 sub tenders with less than half the engineers the Navy required. Plus, there is really not much of a training pipeline for Navy kids to go through to prepare them for boiler plant operation. The pipeline for civmar engineers is,..you got a steam license, then you're experienced.

So, yes, MSC is gonna rob it's fleet of every experienced steam license engineer it can find and throw them on the Ponce."

**Xmsccapt(ret)** · January 4th, 2012, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by Jeffrox

This is from a friend at MSC:
"We've been "requested" to man up the USS Ponce, which is an old piece of shit LPD. There was a study done to see if our civmar engineers could run the plant better than the Navy. Never heard about the outcome, then I saw where the program got canx. The whole thing is about the fact that the Navy can't safely run the steam engine rooms. They've been getting blasted during OPPEs and INSURVs.

So anyway, magically the program is back on again with an extremely high priority and a very ambitious timeline for MSC taking over the ship. My read is that somebody high up noticed we fixed then operated the fucked up plants on the 2 sub tenders with less than half the engineers the Navy required. Plus, there is really not much of a training pipeline for Navy kids to go through to prepare them for boiler plant operation. The pipeline for civmar engineers is,..you got a steam license, then you're experienced.

So, yes, MSC is gonna rob it's fleet of every experienced steam license engineer it can find and throw them on the Ponce."

There us little wonder the present ay USN knows nothing about ships. Given they can be seen driving around in their $60,000 cars, live in condos and not in ships, have contractors fix, paint, maintain, and load stores on their ships is there any wonder? Sure, msc will take the crap LSD, fix it and the USN will be arrogant enough to come and do an " inspection" on a ship that have been proven incapable of operating. The joke continues.