Patience. They are evaluating you.
Good Morning everyone
Today is the 4 week and 1 day "anniversary" of my first License Application (3rd Unlimited Engineer, DDE unlimited, etc). To say that I am frustrated is an understatement. The last update to my application status was on May 17th, 19 days ago when it went to "currently being evaluated". Before May 17th, everything was going quickly and without problems it seemed. My last dealing with the NMC was a few years ago and that went quickly, with emails back and forth with my evaluator and I was approved to test very quickly.
I have contacted the NMC 2 times since May 17th, trying to be patient. I understand that a license application takes more then a QMED application to process. The first time I contacted the NMC was by phone on May 25th. I was told that the evaluator had to get previous paperwork, and that came in the previous day, the 24th. Okay, I thought, no big deal. Just a little more patience. A week later on June 1st I emailed the NMC wondering what my status was(we are at sea now) and they said my evaluator needed more information from me as I goofed up on something(forgot to put Motors on my DDE). Typical for me to goof up on some government paperwork! I asked in the response email to the NMC to please be contacted if there were any further questions, and their response was that my email was forwarded to the appropriate personnel. I sent another email off this morning asking why I have not been contacted, why I have to keep asking them if they need anything, and if they needed anything to please email me and ask like the last 3 times I have asked them to.
Is the NMC not contacting me for some reason? What am I doing wrong here? Anyone? I have had 3 other co-workers apply, email, have conversations with their NMC evaluators and get approved to test in the last 4 weeks.
I would of liked to test this time home but thats not going to happen. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
Last edited by liftedlimo; June 5th, 2012 at 04:21 AM.
Patience. They are evaluating you.
"Better to remain silent and thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
Abraham Lincoln, 16th President (1809-1865)
I agree with Richard8000. Patience is the key. However, I would try to get in direct contact with your evaluator. At this stage of the process you surely have been assigned a single evaluator. Take the mindset that now your job is to fully "assist" your evaluator. This is a big deal in your career path in our chosen profession. Treat this transition accordingly. You must proliferate a sense of patience and a sense of urgency at the same time. Being courteous is the key when you communicate in any way with the NMC. Try to get the evaluator on the phone. This may take several attempts and several voicemails. Be persistent but courteous. You catch more bees with honey than vinegar. After you finally get the evaluator on the horn, ask pertinent direct questions without raising your voice. Remember, you're not in the engine room...lol. Essentially you will be doing their job for them, take the load off of them and assist them. I know it may sound weird. I found these tactics to work wonders after negotiating with the IRS on a daily basis. Just saying....give it a whirl.
The folks at NMC are very courteous and try to be helpful. Once you can get into direct contact with your evaluator by phone or email things should go pretty smoothly.
Good News and Bad News!
Good: I received a status update! Need more Information. We will see what they want later today.
Bad: No email from my evaluator, again.
So they want me to turn in another Application the website says, so I have to refrence the letter sent to my house. Why cant the website tell me what the letter says?!? Anyways..
My big question is that by submitting another application, does my application date change? Specifically 46 CR 11.205 subpart d, "...must have been completed within five years before the date of application for the officer endorsement requested."
Last edited by liftedlimo; June 6th, 2012 at 06:47 AM.
I received my letter today, very prompt USCG!
It says that I need more sea time, 290 days worth. I will call tomorrow and see why they don't like my 12 hour days. Thanks for the helpful words everyone.
What type vessel did you get seatime on? It depends upon the vessel type if they will accept 12 HR days.Originally Posted by liftedlimo
Day 64, still waiting.
My last 2.5 years have been on an OSV. I have had talks with my company training guy and the USCQ, and I was told up until about a year ago they were still accepting sea time at 12 hours for QMEDs. I know of 4 people of the top of my head that have been granted 12 hour days in our company, just none within the last year. Last time I heard from the NMC was 3 weeks ago. My rep was going to submit my seatime request and some other information to someone higher up on the food chain, and then call me back asap. Well 3 weeks and 3 phone calls I still have not heard anything. Last time I called I was told this was going up the chain of command at the call center, and I would at least hear back from someone in 48 hours max. Its been 36 hours, so I am not holding my breath.
At this point I might just resubmit my application for DDE 4000. I am tired of waiting and waiting. And I can at least get 12 hour days working at a DDE!
It is not legal for an oiler to work more than eight hours a day, so you cannot get day and a half credit.
This is why our training coordinator flew to Virginia for a week last month for meetings with the USCG. Our COI's say run 2 watches, the code of shipping says 3. He said after a week of meetings they didnt get any closer resolving this issue.
Any suggestions other then get my DDE 4000? I dont know what else to do.
Waiting on your company and the coast guard to hash it out is a plan for misery. Get your License man!Originally Posted by liftedlimo
Get what you can. There is work to be found for DDE 4000.