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    The Coast Guard has issued a new policy letter for qualifying for STCW endorsements as officer in charge of a navigational watch (OICNW). The policy letter cancels NMC policy letter 01-02.

    The policy is (or will be) available at:
    http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketD...USCG-2011-0525
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    Default Re: New OICNW Policy Letter

    As a 1,600 Master Oceans who tested after 2 February 2002, per page 6, I do not have to test any further for my 3rd Unlimited

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    Because I was never a mate 1,600 I have to test.

    From what I read, if I had a mate's license, I would not have to test. Since I did not, I have to test. I am confused... it seems to come down to the assessments which I have completed. It is still a little gray to me. How would holding a mates license qualify me 3rd and a Master's license not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMCSRetired View Post
    As a 1,600 Master Oceans who tested after 2 February 2002, per page 6, I do not have to test any further for my 3rd Unlimited

    or

    Because I was never a mate 1,600 I have to test.

    From what I read, if I had a mate's license, I would not have to test. Since I did not, I have to test. I am confused... it seems to come down to the assessments which I have completed. It is still a little gray to me. How would holding a mates license qualify me 3rd and a Master's license not?
    It has nothing to do with "superior" licenses. It's pretty simple. On 2/1/02 the test for mate 500, mate 1600, and mate (osv) became the same. So if you took that test once, you don't take it again. That's it. If your path to master 500/16700 did not include mate 500 or mate 1600, you haven't taken that test, and there are still required subjects for 3rd mate you haven't been tested on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdcavo View Post
    It has nothing to do with "superior" licenses. It's pretty simple. On 2/1/02 the test for mate 500, mate 1600, and mate (osv) became the same. So if you took that test once, you don't take it again. That's it. If your path to master 500/16700 did not include mate 500 or mate 1600, you haven't taken that test, and there are still required subjects for 3rd mate you haven't been tested on.
    My path to Master 1600 was through Mate OSV and was at one point endorsed II/1 would this now give me a clear shot through to Third Mate Unlimited? I am also a Master 6000/OSV so I have plenty of Unlimited tonnage time. Thank You for all your help Mr. Cavo.
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    Default Re: New OICNW Policy Letter

    I read the policy letter,,it seems to say that a mate NO longer has to do ALL the courses that were required,,,,is this correct or did I read something wrong???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr 100-ton View Post
    I read the policy letter,,it seems to say that a mate NO longer has to do ALL the courses that were required,,,,is this correct or did I read something wrong???
    That's the way I read it. Though I have been wrong before.
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    this is big news for AB's, they are all talking about it right now here on the HP1. I have been cautioning them though: what the USCG gives so freely they may well take away just as rapidly!!
    Having just completed all my CMM Management Level classes last week, if the 'coasties do the same thing for the Management level courses I will be VERY bummed.

    why did the USCG make this change? it all seems very random....
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    I really wish it were easier to interpret the Policy Letters. It looks like I will have to quit this oilfield shit, get a degree in Law then come back so i can figure out what I rate and what I don't. lol
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    Default Re: New OICNW Policy Letter

    Quote Originally Posted by jdcavo View Post
    The Coast Guard has issued a new policy letter for qualifying for STCW endorsements as officer in charge of a navigational watch (OICNW). The policy letter cancels NMC policy letter 01-02.
    The policy is (or will be) available at:
    http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;dct=FR+PR+N+O+SR;rpp=10;po=0;D=USCG-2011-0525
    Hey, great news, James. I just have one question....

    CAN I GET MY %?@*# 15,000 DOLLARS BACK!?!?!
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    Would someone please translate that letter into American English?
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    Default Re: New OICNW Policy Letter

    It clears out a lot of the gray areas from NMC Policy Letter No. 01-02. It looks like I won't be getting out of testing, but at least now I know.

    I haven't had any luck with the "regulations.gov" site at all for the last 8 hours. The other links contain the letter only without the enclosures. But I found the whole thing at the below link.
    http://homeport.uscg.mil/cgi-bin/st/...2e68587a6359e5
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