New OICNW Policy Letter

**Capt. Phoenix** · July 20th, 2011, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Navy SWO

What does it take (classes, assesements, exams, etc.) for somebody with an Unlimted Master Inland and a 200 Ton NC to get a 2/M Oceans ticket?

I thought about going this route to 2M but can't think of a reasonable way to get an Unlimited Master Inland without working as a pilot or going to Great Lakes ships [which would be a pay cut].

**Navy SWO** · July 20th, 2011, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by dougpine

Apply for it and test. If you already have OICNW you won't have to do anything but the exam. I did, was approved, but I was too damned lazy to take the test and my approval ran out. That was a couple of years ago and I don't think anything has changed. If you don't have a tonnage restriction on your Inland license you won't on your 2/M.

What about Celestial? Does an Inland Unlimited Master already have Celestial?

**anchorman** · July 20th, 2011, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Navy SWO

What about Celestial? Does an Inland Unlimited Master already have Celestial?

You would be a Master upon Oceans with celestial.

**dougpine** · July 20th, 2011, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Navy SWO

What about Celestial? Does an Inland Unlimited Master already have Celestial?

Celestial would be part if the exam. Inland guys don't do celestial.

**Jeffery_P_Oliver** · September 23rd, 2011, 01:16 PM

How does this policy letter affect an A/B with a 100/200 gt master/mate? Assessments, BRM, AFF, GMDSS, ARPA, MCP, Radar, and flashing light all need to test? A captain I work with says the 200 gt plotting is the same as the 1600. Is that true?

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**dougpine** · September 23rd, 2011, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffery_P_Oliver

How does this policy letter affect an A/B with a 100/200 gt master/mate?

Can't answer that one without knowing the context. What are you applying for?

**Jeffery_P_Oliver** · September 23rd, 2011, 04:15 PM

I want to apply for the mate 1600 or at least the mate 500. Half my seatime is on a 174 ton vessel and the other half is on a 474 ton vessel all as an AB.

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**Ea$y Money** · September 23rd, 2011, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by Jeffery_P_Oliver

I want to apply for the mate 1600 or at least the mate 500. Half my seatime is on a 174 ton vessel and the other half is on a 474 ton vessel all as an AB.

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How it affects you is already reflected in the checklist for 500 and/or 1600. It removes the requirement to take most of the classes. If you have 1080 days of seatime over 200 GRT then you can get the Third Mate - Limited.

http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/checklists.asp

Scroll down to the license you want and it will give you a pdf checklist of all the requirements.

Good Luck.

**Jeffery_P_Oliver** · September 23rd, 2011, 05:31 PM

Thank you very much. I have the checklist and just wanted to verify what I suspected.

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**dougpine** · September 23rd, 2011, 10:02 PM

Best hurry. I don't think this will stand for long.

**crabboyjimmy** · September 26th, 2011, 09:22 AM

Please forgive me if I've misunderstood this post, but why does everyone seem to look down on someone whos spent 20 years at sea on a boat and working everyday, seem to think that a few years spent in a classroom studying theory makes a better mariner? I remember passing my 1600 at the REC and wondering why if I could past a terrestrial exam at the REC, did I need a certificate from a 3 week class to upgrade to 3rd mate. Some things are better taught at the wheel than on a black board. I couldn't believe they actually required a certificate for ship handling!!!!!! like that can be taught in a classroom.
Things are bad enough out there. We should all band together and help each other. After all, we all have our eye on the same prize

**DeckApe** · September 26th, 2011, 10:07 AM

If you wasted four years getting the same license as some deck or grease monkey without a high school diploma wouldn't you talk yourself up, too?

**Jeffery_P_Oliver** · September 26th, 2011, 11:32 AM

If I knew then what I know now, I would have went to an an academy as soon as I graduated high school. I am not ashamed of my 6 years of hawsepiping it either. I worked for several different captains and learned a lot from each, I'm sure some of it not taught in academies. I would like to congratulate any and every seaman that has worked hard at earning his or her license. Mine means a lot to me. I only hope to upgrade as is I am qualified. I hope everyone has a safe and pleasant voyage.

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**tantom40** · January 22nd, 2012, 11:34 PM

If I am going for a 1600 ton mate near coastal do I need to have the celestial assesments completed? How about arpa? Thanks in advance. Furthermore does anyone know exactly how rfpnw time must be logged? Is a sea time style letter titled rfpnw training stating range of days hours per day and stating it is specifically rfpnw.training sufficient?

**MIKEZ76SP** · January 23rd, 2012, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by tantom40

If I am going for a 1600 ton mate near coastal do I need to have the celestial assesments completed? How about arpa? Thanks in advance. Furthermore does anyone know exactly how rfpnw time must be logged? Is a sea time style letter titled rfpnw training stating range of days hours per day and stating it is specifically rfpnw.training sufficient?

I recently just finished the process for 1600 mate N/C when I did all my assesments I just got them all signed off except for the celestial. I didnt want problems from the REC so I just got them all signed off. As far as RFPNW I went to a one day class and got lookout duties only put on my MMC and they gave me all the assesments to get filled out by my captain. If I remember right a day must be 8 hours of navigational watch.