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    Is it legal to get sea time credit while sitting at the dock?

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    I have heard of a lot of people logging sea time at the dock. Where I work deck guys get 1 sea day for 3 days at the dock. Engineers get 1 for 1 because the work is close to what you would be doing during a sea watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailormike View Post
    Is it legal to get sea time credit while sitting at the dock?
    The simple answer is: It ALL depends upon HOW the sea service letter is written.

    Honestly (?) Time at the dock doesn't count. But, if the sea service letter doesn't specifically show that, no one either looks, cares, OR has the ability to challenge the verification. The Bluesuits have neither the time nor the knowledge to challenge the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy208 View Post
    The simple answer is: It ALL depends upon HOW the sea service letter is written.

    Honestly (?) Time at the dock doesn't count. But, if the sea service letter doesn't specifically show that, no one either looks, cares, OR has the ability to challenge the verification. The Bluesuits have neither the time nor the knowledge to challenge the issue.
    I tried looking this up in the CFR's and couldn't find it. any ideas where I can find where this is written?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailormike View Post

    I tried looking this up in the CFR's and couldn't find it. any ideas where I can find where this is written?
    It's not in CFRs its in Navics. these are USCG 'official' interpretation of what the CFRs mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cappy208 View Post
    It's not in CFRs its in Navics. these are USCG 'official' interpretation of what the CFRs mean.
    Thanks I'll look it up.

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    When I upgraded to 2nd engineer, the Coast Guard didn't even question my 60 days of ROS time.

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    Everyone has at the dock or in the anchorage seatime. That is just the nature of the business. If you are on an active vessel that is underway most of the time, don't worry about it. If you are on a vessel that rarely gets underway, that's different story.

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    I have never seen a discharge that separated at sea and at the dock.

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    I would say the only time it may come up would be a casino "boat". They never go anywhere yet they still have a crew on them.

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    Yes, and you can get seatime credit doing lots of different stuff, 46 CFR 11.211 and 11.213 refers; Also I found this:
    http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/credentials/...ea_service.pdf

    Key quotes:
    "When reading the requirements, keep in mind that “sea service” means time on the vessel"
    "To count your days of seagoing service accurately, you must understand that a “day” is defined in the regulations as “eight hours of WatchStanding or day-working not to include overtime.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrox
    Yes, and you can get seatime credit doing lots of different stuff, 46 CFR 11.211 and 11.213 refers; Also I found this:
    http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/credentials/...ea_service.pdf

    Key quotes:
    "When reading the requirements, keep in mind that “sea service” means time on the vessel"
    "To count your days of seagoing service accurately, you must understand that a “day” is defined in the regulations as “eight hours of WatchStanding or day-working not to include overtime.”
    I saw that as well. I'm just wondering is all a couple guys I work with said that yatchties don't get sea time while sitting at the dock.

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