Two Month Job to deliver US Armed Services Vessel to the Middle East

[prishi]

I have lately been contacted by a company who is moving a large Tug (US Armed Services) from US Gulf to the Middle East. For this reason, the company is looking for the following personnel, for a 50-60 day stint ONLY. I am looking for the right personnel for the delivery job. I have the following and wish to see if anyone is interested.

All crew must be US citizens and hold qualifications as per below

1- Master w/1600 GT or greater Oceans Endorsement, STCW
1- Mate w/1600 GT or greater, Oceans Endorsement, STCW
1- Chief Engineer w/Limited Oceans, 4,000 HP or greater, STCW
1- Assistant Engineer w/Limited Oceans, 4,000 HP or greater, STCW
2-Able Seaman w/Unlimited, MMD, STCW
2-QMED w/MMD, STCW
1-Cook w/MMD, STCW

Anyone may contact me at ship.manning@gointerlink.com or surely on this forum for more information.

Thanks!
Capt. Prateek Rishi

[CaptAndrew]

I am curious. I have already received notice of this directly to my email, and just wondered what your involvement with the project is?

[prishi]

I am curious. I have already received notice of this directly to my email, and just wondered what your involvement with the project is?

Capt. Andrew
I have been asked to suggest Personnel for delivering this job.
Rgds
Prateek

[dougpine]

I have lately been contacted by a company who is moving a large Tug (US Armed Services) from US Gulf to the Middle East. For this reason, the company is looking for the following personnel, for a 50-60 day stint ONLY. I am looking for the right personnel for the delivery job. I have the following and wish to see if anyone is interested.

All crew must be US citizens and hold qualifications as per below

1- Master w/1600 GT or greater Oceans Endorsement, STCW
1- Mate w/1600 GT or greater, Oceans Endorsement, STCW
1- Chief Engineer w/Limited Oceans, 4,000 HP or greater, STCW
1- Assistant Engineer w/Limited Oceans, 4,000 HP or greater, STCW
2-Able Seaman w/Unlimited, MMD, STCW
2-QMED w/MMD, STCW
1-Cook w/MMD, STCW

Anyone may contact me at ship.manning@gointerlink.com or surely on this forum for more information.

Thanks!
Capt. Prateek Rishi

If it's a tug you're going to need people who hold Master or Mate of Towing Oceans endorsements.

[Kay9]

Im a 1600t Master ocean with a towing endorsement.

E-mail me with more information. A short term gig fits into my plans at the moment.

rosinbaum at gmail.com

[prishi]

Im a 1600t Master ocean with a towing endorsement.

E-mail me with more information. A short term gig fits into my plans at the moment.

rosinbaum at gmail.com

Thank you, shall ping you in due course.

[prishi]

Please note:- A "Towing Endorsement" is not needed. An "Oceans Endorsement" IS NEEDED for allowing Ocean Crossings!!

[CaptRob1]

I got the same. It is to bring a tug from Florida to Kuwait. There will supposedly be 2-8 Army/Navy personnel. I can only guess for Security.
I never got any word about pay. It is a straight delivery, not towing anything.
Tug is 128 feet.

[Jolly Tar]

Job is also posting at RigZone.

[JP]

If it's a tug you're going to need people who hold Master or Mate of Towing Oceans endorsements.

Not if it is not towing anything on the voyage- then it is just a regular power driven vessel underway like any other and no special endorsements needed

[stevefoster]

Not if it is not towing anything on the voyage- then it is just a regular power driven vessel underway like any other and no special endorsements needed

I'm thinking three watch system for ocean crossing......job offer is only asking for two bridge personnel and two ABs.

[seadog6608]

Captain Rishi, I am a US licensed Third Mate, Oceans, Any Gross Tons license holder. I have a current GMDSS Operator License, Able Seaman Unlimited MMD, TWIC, US Passport, VSO certification and STCW OICNW. I am interested in and available for the Mate position.

[dougpine]

I'm thinking three watch system for ocean crossing......job offer is only asking for two bridge personnel and two ABs.

You're absolutely right, any voyage over 600 nm needs a three watch sytem in place; and try entering a foreign port on an American two-watch system boat. Busted!

[seadawg]

Not if it is not towing anything on the voyage- then it is just a regular power driven vessel underway like any other and no special endorsements needed

??what if the vessel is diverted mid-ocean to assist a dead ship..believe if it is a registered and documented as a towing vessel and is on a foriegn voyage will require 3 towing officers w/ oceans in the wheelhouse regardless of whether running "liteboat" or not.

**Doug..delivery job of a US vessel being handled by a UAE shipping interest..don't know about you..something smells of tuna??

**don't forget to consider being "pirate bait" on a 12kt low freeboard vessel!!

[dougpine]

??what if the vessel is diverted mid-ocean to assist a dead ship..believe if it is a registered and documented as a towing vessel and is on a foriegn voyage will require 3 towing officers w/ oceans in the wheelhouse regardless of whether running "liteboat" or not.

**Doug..delivery job of a US vessel being handled by a UAE shipping interest..don't know about you..something smells of tuna??

Yes this one gives me the creeps, frankly. Their obvious lack of knowledge of the laws governing towing vessels, and their ridiculous 12 hour demands make me want to stay away.

[Steamer]

Yes this one gives me the creeps, frankly. Their obvious lack of knowledge of the laws governing towing vessels, and their ridiculous 12 hour demands make me want to stay away.

The post described the vessel as a "US Armed Services vessel" that will have military personnel onboard. Does that not make it probable that the boat is a "public vessel" and they can run it any way they choose.

As far as the tugboat part goes, it is just a boat, it is not in the private or commercial towing business and if the military diverts it that is the military authority's prerogative. I wonder how many Navy or Army or MSC tugs are under the command of USCG licensed officers holding towing endorsements?

Geez, between the holier than thou stance regarding the Whale Wars bunch and this one, you guys are beginnng to sound like a bunch of old whiners and sour grapes artists.

[Capt_Anonymous]

The post described the vessel as a "US Armed Services vessel" that will have military personnel onboard. Does that not make it probable that the boat is a "public vessel" and they can run it any way they choose.

As far as the tugboat part goes, it is just a boat, it is not in the private or commercial towing business and if the military diverts it that is the military authority's prerogative. I wonder how many Navy or Army or MSC tugs are under the command of USCG licensed officers holding towing endorsements?

Geez, between the holier than thou stance regarding the Whale Wars bunch and this one, you guys are beginnng to sound like a bunch of old whiners and sour grapes artists.

You're correct, we bitch and moan about a lot of stuff. We're sailors, for crying out loud. Since people on land assume we're seldom correct about anything, all we can do is cry about stuff, and consider why people like you try to shut us up. Thanks for pointing that out.

If it is a military/public vessel, why doesn't the military or the government crew it instead of some funky ass crewing agency with a slapped together website? But no, they seek professionals. Professionals who won't put up with a two watch boat on an ocean voyage. Professionals who know better. Professionals who are sick of scammy crap like this.

So why don't you take it and we can put this to rest, while you get none during the voyage.

[seadog6608]

??what if the vessel is diverted mid-ocean to assist a dead ship..believe if it is a registered and documented as a towing vessel and is on a foriegn voyage will require 3 towing officers w/ oceans in the wheelhouse regardless of whether running "liteboat" or not.

**Doug..delivery job of a US vessel being handled by a UAE shipping interest..don't know about you..something smells of tuna??

**don't forget to consider being "pirate bait" on a 12kt low freeboard vessel!!

Its quite possible that the final outfitting of the boat is to take place overseas. She may be being delivered bareboat without towing tackle. In which case she wouldn't be of much help to a deadship.

[dougpine]

We're all making lots of assumptions regarding this "opportunity", which is really fun and all but in the end pointless.

I'm curious to find out who actually takes her across, and I'm looking forward to hearing the sea story afterward.

[Steamer]

"... all we can do is cry about stuff, and consider why people like you try to shut us up. "

I'm not trying to shut you up ... whine all you like. I was just pointing out how silly it sounds to make all those amazing deductions about a job and the laws that might apply to it.

"If it is a military/public vessel, why doesn't the military or the government crew it instead of some funky ass crewing agency with a slapped together website?"

It sounds like the military contracted the job. Pretty common practice, well known to maritime professionals. Maybe the agency puts their money to other uses than building fancy websites to impress those who need pictures rather than information?

"But no, they seek professionals. Professionals who won't put up with a two watch boat on an ocean voyage. Professionals who know better. Professionals who are sick of scammy crap like this."

So don't apply for the job if it is beneath your dignity. As a professional with more than 30 years in the industry and one who has seen a few ups and downs in the job market, when jobs were scarce I took whatever was available to upgrade and eat.

If I didn't have a damn good job right now I would consider taking that trip just for grins and for the adventure. For all the same reasons I have taken a shipload of less than glamorous jobs that filled some niche in my interest in the sea and ships. I have worked 12 on 12 off and didn't see it as an affront to my professionalism or pride. Professionals just get on with the job and get it done, or choose not to take the job.

"So why don't you take it and we can put this to rest, while you get none during the voyage."

I have a better job that I can't leave for now. Even if I didn't, I figure I will get all the rest I need when I am dead. In the meantime, there is a whole world of interesting, fun, adventurous, well-paying, novel, educational, and entertaining jobs to be had and that tugboat delivery sounds like one of them. All it takes is a sense of humor and a professional attitude to make it worthwhile. They write books about that sort of trip you know.