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    Default Re: The Mel Oliver collision

    Just to clarify a few things you will see on the playback:

    1) The vessel Tintamara has a pilot onboard that goes by '16' on the audio playback.
    2) There is no audio until about a minute into the playback.
    3) Things start getting dicey around the 3 minute mark.
    4) Here are some initial USCG findings (courtesy Professional Mariner):
    The captain of the Mel Oliver was not aboard the vessel at the time of the collision.
    Mel Oliver had an assigned crew of a Captain, Steersman apprentice, and two deck hands.
    The steersman apprentice was operating the Mel Oliver at the time of the collision. He was licensed but his license did not authorize him to operate the vessel without the captain’s presence in the wheelhouse.
    (The captain of the Mel Oliver testified that he left his boat for three days to follow up on a tip that his girlfriend was seeing another man. The captain said the apprentice mate he left behind had captained vessels previously.)
    The Mel Oliver did not return the radio call outs from the Tintamara prior to the collision.
    Vessel traffic service did call out to the Mel Oliver prior to the collision.
    The Mel Oliver did not answer the vessel traffic service prior to the collision.

    The Mississippi River oil spill occurred on July 23 when the tanker Tintomara and a barge carrying 419,000 gallons of oil – being towed by the Mel Oliver – collided. The barge split in half, spilling much of its cargo into the river. It is estimated that about 280,000 gallons of oil actually spilled into the Mississippi. The spill was the worst to ever occur on the lower Mississippi River.
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    Default Re: The Mel Oliver collision

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    "go figure".."apprentice mate/steersman program".."do the math"

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    And......?

    Danzante,
    everybody is waiting to hear about the cheating girlfriend.
    Did the captain find the bastard in his bedroom?
    ...or was it all in vain?
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    Wow . . . my hands got sweaty just watching/listening to that!
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    Ok.....we know he can't steer but.....did he not know how to use a radio either? Did I miss something; he never came back or did I miss it? Was he told by the Captain to maintain radio silence too????

    When I use to have my Sportfish, we had to make that run down on one and were at this location about 2300HRS. The traffic is very controlled and it is hard to imagine that he had not had any radio communication for any period to get where he was. I just do not understand why he did not respond. Maybe I missed it, was he in the wheelhouse?

    Danzante states:
    "...The Mel Oliver did not return the radio call outs from the Tintamara prior to the collision.
    Vessel traffic service did call out to the Mel Oliver prior to the collision.
    The Mel Oliver did not answer the vessel traffic service prior to the collision."

    But why no response??
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    Default Re: The Mel Oliver collision

    Quote Originally Posted by Jones Act View Post
    But why no response??
    Just my opinion but he probably didn't have the radio on; if it was on he didn't know how to use it; if it was on and he didn't know how to use it he was probably scared shitless and made poor decisions as a result.
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    Default Re: The Mel Oliver collision

    Give the guy a break.....Who else thinks they can talk on the VHF with their head up their ass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anchorman View Post
    Give the guy a break.....Who else thinks they can talk on the VHF with their head up their ass?
    Hey..... wooooah.




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    I think he either (1) had port engine problems; (2) he left the wheelhouse or (3) fell asleep. If you study the video, he was staying close to the bank and then he went hard to port. Even if his radio was off, there is no reasonable explanation for this maneuver unless it was either uncontrollable or he simply was below or asleep. {maybe a death wish is another explanation}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones Act View Post
    (2) he left the wheelhouse
    Left the wheelhouse alright...read here Professional Mariner.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by danzante View Post
    Just to clarify a few things you will see on the playback:


    Mel Oliver had an assigned crew of a Captain, Steersman apprentice, and two deck hands.
    The steersman apprentice was operating the Mel Oliver at the time of the collision. He was licensed but his license did not authorize him to operate the vessel without the captainís presence in the wheelhouse.
    (The captain of the Mel Oliver testified that he left his boat for three days to follow up on a tip that his girlfriend was seeing another man. The captain said the apprentice mate he left behind had captained vessels previously.)
    The Mel Oliver did not return the radio call outs from the Tintamara prior to the collision.
    Vessel traffic service did call out to the Mel Oliver prior to the collision.
    The Mel Oliver did not answer the vessel traffic service prior to the collision.
    4 crew?
    Captain had his problems at home.
    3 Remain on board.
    "The steersman apprentice was operating.... etc"
    2 remain. (???)

    It seams that only one man was on the bridge, steering probably, and had no time to reply on the call.
    We dont know where is VHF positioned from the wheel - and if this far enough, with one man steering not able to grab the set, that why he didnt reply.

    The question is: where the 2 remaining guys have been?

    And whatthehell did captain find at home?
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