Oops, They did it again.

[cappy208]

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/50770619

Carnival ain't SO Triumphant!

[Topsail]

The carnival goes on !

[catherder]

Why on earth would anyone pay to ride on one of these fail scows.

Carnival is the WalMart of the cruise industry.

[salt'n steel]

Why on earth would anyone pay to ride on one of these fail scows.

Carnival is the WalMart of the cruise industry.

Excellent comparison! Your right about that- just a glorified gambling boat. Embarrassed to see Americans wearing bibbies and work boots on the Holiday out of Mobile a few years ago. If I'm inclined to ever take a cruise it wont be carnival.

[PaddyWest2012]

Not like things used to be. There's no more red white and blue stacks screaming across the North Atlantic at 34 knots with proud hard working American mariners at the helm and being driven at light speed by fire-pissing, de-regulated Iowa-class Battleship turbines. Nope, all the glory that was once the American passenger service is rusting away tragically at a slip in Philadelphia. And Carnival is an American company too! How dare they hire primarily Greeks and Italians! The tea-party oughtta go down to Miami and give them the what-fer!

[Fraqrat]

My wife has been on me to take us all on a family cruise. My reply is baby don't get me started....

[dredgeboater]

I would think about taking a cruise with my wife. A Master I worked with a few years back (who had been on a few cruises and enjoyed them) pointed out to that as crazy as it seems to pay good money to go on a ship in your time off to relax, it was very different sitting on your balcony with you beverage of choice leaving port and not being the guy responsible for the whole operation. That being said, I would never in my right mind cruise on a Carnival ship. They always appeared to be a bottom feeder in the cruise industry. Talking with an instructor who routinely teaches BRM to all the cruise ship company bridge crews (and has ridden all the different brands in the course of that employment) he said he would go Royal Caribbean and avoid Carnival like the plague.

[PaddyWest2012]

I would think about taking a cruise with my wife. A Master I worked with a few years back (who had been on a few cruises and enjoyed them) pointed out to that as crazy as it seems to pay good money to go on a ship in your time off to relax, it was very different sitting on your balcony with you beverage of choice leaving port and not being the guy responsible for the whole operation. That being said, I would never in my right mind cruise on a Carnival ship. They always appeared to be a bottom feeder in the cruise industry. Talking with an instructor who routinely teaches BRM to all the cruise ship company bridge crews (and has ridden all the different brands in the course of that employment) he said he would go Royal Caribbean and avoid Carnival like the plague.

As much as the damn Norwegians annoy me, and they most certainly do, I would probably have a hard time turning my nose up at Royal Caribbean. I traveled on that behemoth the Oasis in 2010, and while I personally think it was a waste of a cruise because I didn't feel like I was on a ship at any point, it was a very comfortable ship and the company has a very good safety record, to the best of my knowledge.

[Topsail]

If one day I decide to make a cruise, I will make it on a ship from Regent Seven Seas Cruises or Silver Sea Cruises. I have had the chance to pilot many of them and I can assure you that it is something different. Class, beauty, competency and hospitality. Not so big vessels so you can meet very interesting people who has other objective than Eat All You Can & Play Mini Pot.

http://www.rssc.com/ships/
http://www.silversea.com/ships/silver-whisper/

[catherder]

UPDATE: Pax "fight over food and use buckets for toilets"

http://www.examiner.com/article/crui...ts-for-toilets

I can't wait for the youtube videos. Actually, if you want a laugh google "cruise ship fights" and watch what pops up. Most are Carnival, The Fun Ships! :-)

[Topsail]

I took a free cruise on the Crystal Symphony last fall. One of the engine would not start. So I had the dinner, then the suite with a balcony and the breakfast before being canceled. What a nice cruise it was !

[catherder]

Fraqrat, you should go on that cruise with your wife.

Look what you're missing,

Mobbing a table for a chance to buy a unique, one-of-a-kind, cheap plastic Chinese crap watch made in an authentic Chinese sweatshop by authentic Chinese prison labor for the low, low price of $20:

[Fraqrat]

Fraqrat, you should go on that cruise with your wife.

Look what you're missing,

Mobbing a table for a chance to buy a unique, one-of-a-kind, cheap plastic Chinese crap watch made in an authentic Chinese sweatshop by authentic Chinese prison labor for the low, low price of $20:

YouTube Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoWoxhd88wE

No thanks I did my wiper time on a cruise ship the SS Independence. After a second trip in a row with pax getting sick health Dept. shut us down for a week. Plus the thefts, attempted rapes etc oh yeah they're the "fun ships".

[PaddyWest2012]

No thanks I did my wiper time on a cruise ship the SS Independence. After a second trip in a row with pax getting sick health Dept. shut us down for a week. Plus the thefts, attempted rapes etc oh yeah they're the "fun ships".

Ah, the Independence. She and the Constitution were two of the most beautiful ships afloat in their time. I'm sure that more than a few people will disagree with me, but I'm ok with that. Thus is the tragedy of passenger ships: so beautiful, and yet such a disaster to work on. I found that out the hard way... I was heart broken.

[c.captain]

Fraqrat, you should go on that cruise with your wife.

Look what you're missing,

Mobbing a table for a chance to buy a unique, one-of-a-kind, cheap plastic Chinese crap watch made in an authentic Chinese sweatshop by authentic Chinese prison labor for the low, low price of $20:

to that quote I can only add this one, but you have to guess the movie

Look at those assholes, ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em.

[c.captain]

Ah, the Independence. She and the Constitution were two of the most beautiful ships afloat in their time. I'm sure that more than a few people will disagree with me, but I'm ok with that. Thus is the tragedy of passenger ships: so beautiful, and yet such a disaster to work on. I found that out the hard way... I was heart broken.

I disagree entirely...they were a butt ugly homely pair



BRAZIL and ARGENTINA were beautiful ships tho

[tillettso]

As much as the damn Norwegians annoy me, and they most certainly do, I would probably have a hard time turning my nose up at Royal Caribbean. I traveled on that behemoth the Oasis in 2010, and while I personally think it was a waste of a cruise because I didn't feel like I was on a ship at any point, it was a very comfortable ship and the company has a very good safety record, to the best of my knowledge.

I felt the same aboard the Grandeur of the Seas in '06.

[Topsail]

I sailed on both when they were the QUEEN OF BERMUDA and the BERMUDA STAR, owned by Bermuda Star Lines of New Jersey. They were excellent vessels at sea. Strongly built. I loved the experience.



But again, no american officers on board ...

[Topsail]

Brazil Time Line:





1957 Named Brazil.
1972 Renamed to Volendam.
1975 Renamed to Monarch Sun.
1978 Renamed once more to Volendam.
1984 Renamed to Island Sun.
1985 Renamed to Liberté.
1987 Renamed to Canada Star.
1988 Renamed to Queen of Bermuda.
1990 Renamed to Enchanted Seas.
1995 Renamed to Universe Explorer.
2004 Renamed to Universe

1957 (16 December) Launching of Brazil.
1958 (5 September) Delivered to Moore-McCormack Lines, New York, USA.
1958 (12 September) Start of first voyage from New York to Buenos Aires.
1962 Refurbished by Bethlehem Steel, Baltimore.
1969 (5 September) Laid up in Baltimore
1972 (April) Sold to Holland Amerika Lijn, Willemstad, Netherlands Antilles.Renamed to Volendam
1972 (18 August - 14 February 1973) Refurbished by Lloyd Werft, Bremerhaven,Germany.
1974 Laid up in Hampton Roads.
1975 Chartered to Monarch Cruise Lines, Panama. Renamed in Monarch Sun.
1975 (3 September) Put in cruise service between Miami, Florida and BahamaIslands.
1976 Flag change to that of Panama.
1978 Renamed once more to Volendam.
1982 New ownership by Holland America Cruises, Willemstad, NetherlandsAntilles.
1983 New ownership now by Banstead Shipping, Panama.
1984 Renamed to Island Sun and laid up as a hotel ship in Quebec, Canada.
1984 Laid up in Newport News near Philadelphia. USA.
1985 Told to American Hawaii Cruises, Honolulu and renamed to Liberte.
1985 (December) First cruises between Papeete and Tahiti.
1987 Sold to Bermuda Star Line, Panama and renamed to Canada Star.
1988 (June) Renamed to Queen of Bermuda.
1988 (11 June) First voyage from Philadelphia.
1990 (November) Sold to Commodore Cruise Line, Panama and renamed to EnchantedSeas.
1995 Sold to American V-Ships, Panama and renamed to Universe Explorer.
1996 (27 July) When on an Alaskan cruise a fire broke out in the ship's laundrydepartment. Of the crew 5 died and 73 ended up with serious smoke damage. Thefire was extinguished and died out in 4 hours after which the ship headed forJuneau, Canada where the passengers were evacuated.
1996 (2 August) The ship arrived at the Vancouver Drydock for repairs.
1996 (14 August) Put into service again and later sold to Azure Investments,Panama.
2004 (24 June) Registered in and laid up at Hongkong.
2004 (October) Sold to Indian breakers. For the last journey the ship was forthe last time renamed to ss Universe and at the same time flying the NorthKorean flag with as home port Wonsan.
2004 (5 December) The ship is beached at Alang, India for the final strippingand cutting up operations.

[Tugted]

Who's towing the Carnival Ship??