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    http://gcaptain.com/tanker-allides-francisco-bridge/

    A double-hulled oil tanker owned by Overseas Shipholding Group sustained damage, but is not believed to be leaking oil after alliding with the San Francisco Bay Bridge Monday morning.

    Mindy Talmadge, a San Francisco Fire Department spokesman, said that the MV Overseas Reymar, a 69,636 DWT Panamax oil products tanker, swiped the easternmost tower of the bridge’s western span at approximately 11:37 a.m, according to a report from the San Francisco Chronicle. The tanker sustained damage to its starboard side, Talmadge said, but is not believed to be leaking oil. Visibility was at about a quarter mile at the time of the allision, according to media reports.

    The ship departed from the Shell Refinery at Martinez, CA early this morning and was reportedly being maneuvered under the direction of a San Francisco Bay Ship Pilot when the allision occurred.

    A unified command is being set up in response to the incident.

    The Overseas Reymar is a Marshall Islands-flagged, ABS-classed, oil products tanker 100% owned and operated by Overseas Shipholding Group.
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    I am staying out of this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMCSRetired View Post
    I am staying out of this one.
    what about how many antidepressant, antianxiety, antiinsomnia and male enhancement medications the pilot takes everyday?



    It shows 11.5kts that the time they sideswiped the cribbing! When will the fuck will these supposed experts in shiphandling learn to slow the fuck down in such low visibility?


    Oh well, at least there's no spill this time and the bridge is still standing...

    Count on another opening in the Bar Pilots Association soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c.captain View Post
    what about how many antidepressant, antianxiety, antiinsomnia and male enhancement medications the pilot takes everyday?

    It shows 11.5kts that the time they sideswiped the cribbing!
    You have the wrong side of the bridge for your data point.
    The plot you reference has a couple of bogus track lines to confuse things as well.
    The ship had been in Martinez to unload. It came down under the Bay Bridge (one pass) this morning at about 1:20 AM PST) to Anchorage 9 to take on fuel, then departed at about 11 AM for sea for the second pass under the bridge and the allision.

    "The tanker left a dock near the Shell refinery in Martinez early Monday before passing south under the Bay Bridge, briefly anchored, then turned around and heading back north, according to the ship's track on MarineTraffic.com, a commercial ship-tracking website."
    Read more:
    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Human-error-looked-at-in-tanker-probe-4172745.php#ixzz2HLaR7siz"

    The data point that you reference 11.5 knots/148 degrees ..09:19:00 UTC is for the south bound passage (west end of west span) at 01:19 PST. The ship ended up in Anchorage 9 for bunkering.

    The allision with the "E" tower occurred on the eastern end of the west span going northbound at about 1120 PST on the way to sea. There is an available data point 11.8 knots/358 degrees, 19:17:00 UTC, 11:17 PST just before the allision with the E tower

    This may allow you to validly argue argue "too fast"
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    here's the track with the time stamp you mention...my error on the other one I posted. I misunderstood which span the ship was going under when the allision took place. So shoot me!



    YES, STILL TOO FUCKING FAST....AGAIN!
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    Shell was in there somewhere…again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag View Post
    Shell was in there somewhere…again.
    wouldn't that be just sweet? then you can poke your iddy biddy pointy stick at me some more.

    haha to you little man
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    Mine is not pointy, its blunt..like a baseball bat, more surface affect that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallywag View Post
    Mine is not pointy, its blunt..like a baseball bat, more surface affect that way.
    more like a wiffleball bat I'd say...

    keep swingin tho son...maybe you'll hit one one of these daze like this young lad managed to. It'll feel really awesome for you when you do!




    eh batter, batter, batter....SHWING!



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    So...the report says visibility was only .25 mile...11.8 knots seems WAY too fast, at least for the bridge transit. If I'm not mistaken, this is the same span that capt. Cota transited with the Cosco Busan in the fog a few years ago. He kissed the Delta tower with the PORT side of the ship. Looks like this guy smacked the Echo tower with the STBD quarter of the tanker. WTF is going on down there with the SF Pilots and VTS?? This is embarrassing!
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    looks like we have another Cota here folks...

    Pilot who struck Bay Bridge had 3 prior accidents

    By By PAUL ELIAS | Associated Press

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The pilot of an empty oil tanker that crashed into the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge was involved in three previous accidents, records obtained Tuesday show.

    Pilot Guy Kleess was held responsible for two of the accidents and ordered to undergo more training after a ship he was piloting damaged a dock in Stockton in 2009, according to records from the state Board of Pilot Commissioners.

    The disclosure came as two federal agencies and the state board pursued investigations of the crash of the 752-foot tanker Overseas Reymar.

    The U.S. Coast Guard classified the accident as a "major marine casualty" because it exceeded $500,000 in property damage. However, no oil leaks were reported and the bridge remained open. No crew members were injured.

    Coast Guard Petty Officer Pamela J. Boehland said investigators interviewed Kleess on Tuesday. The ship's master — or captain — and key crewmembers were also interviewed.

    She also said no alcohol was found in any of the critical crew members tested, including Kleess. Boehland said investigators are still analyzing samples for drug use.

    Human error is one factor being explored by the Coast Guard as a possible cause of the crash. Visibility at the time was about a quarter-mile, but officials didn't say if that was a factor.

    The National Transportation Safety Board said it will coordinate its investigation with the Coast Guard and proceed in light of safety recommendations made after another tanker, the Cosco Busan, hit a nearby tower on the same bridge in 2007 and spilled 53,000 gallons of oil into the bay.

    The state board licensed Kleess in 2005 after he completed a two-year training program and joined an elite cadre of mariners who are required by state law to guide every large vessel in the San Francisco Bay and other Northern California waterways.

    Board records show Kleess was involved in three prior shipping accidents. He was found at fault in two of the incidents, and all were considered minor, agency chief Allen Garfinkle said.

    "They in no way reflect on his skill," Garfinkle said.

    Kleess was held blameless when the bow of a ship he was piloting in the Sacramento River on Aug. 27, 2009, "took a sudden sheer to the left" and ran into the bank at slow speed, according to a report to the Legislature.

    Two days later, Kleess was found at fault when a ship he was piloting damaged a dock in the Port of Stockton. No damage estimate was provided for repairing a wooden pylon used to support a catwalk.

    Kleess agreed to undergo four training runs in the narrow and shallow inland waterways that Garfinkle said are the toughest routes for pilots to navigate.

    "Only our most elite pilots go up there," Garfinkle said. "It takes a special person to do that type of work."

    The commissioners' 2010 annual report showed Kleess also was held responsible for allowing a ship he was piloting on May 26, 2010, to stray into shallow water in the Richmond Inner Harbor, causing a tug boat tending the ship to briefly run aground. The board found there was minimal damage and Kleess wasn't disciplined for the incident.

    Other agency records also showed that pilot Guy Kleess was placed on medical leave in August 2010 for an undisclosed ailment. His license expired in November of that year. The Coast Guard cleared him for duty, and his license was renewed on Jan. 11, 2011, minutes of a monthly meeting of the pilot commissioners show.

    A call to Kleess' San Francisco home on Tuesday went unanswered.

    Board records show Kleess went to work on oil tankers for Exxon Oil Co. after graduating from the United States Merchant Marine Academy in 1976.

    The company promoted him several times during the next 13 years. He ultimately attained the rank of master — or captain — of his own ship. He held various other high-ranking mariner positions with other companies before entering the San Francisco Bay bar pilots training program in 2003.

    Investigators also will inspect the hull above and below the water line, but Lansing said it wasn't breached.

    The bridge sustained minor damage and remained open after the accident that damaged 30 to 40 feet of "fender" material that will need to be replaced.

    The fender system made of steel and wooden timbers was built onto the west span to absorb such strikes.

    OSG Ship Management Inc., the parent company that owns the Marshall Islands-registered Overseas Reymar, said the accident occurred as the vessel hit an underwater portion of the massive bridge structure. The ship was not carrying oil as cargo, only fuel to power its engines, Goodyear said.

    The crew reported no loss of steering or propulsion, and initial investigations showed no water leaks from any of the ballast tanks, said Darrell Wilson, a spokesman for OSG.

    California Emergency Management Agency spokesman Jordan Scott said the superstructure of the bridge was fine.

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    Associated Press writers Lisa Leff, Sudhin Thanawala and Terence Chea contributed to this report.
    "our most elite pilots"? WHAT THE FUCK?

    Pilot Associations are mafias plain and simple...
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