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    Default CruiseCritic forum want to know why just a few American cruiseship captains

    and they decide that Americans are too lazy and too overpaid. Some comments are thoughtful but others are just plain ignorant and offensive and reflect the mindset that is killing the Jones Act with the death by a thousand cuts:

    http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1791129

    Here's one comment: "Americans are too lazy and don't speak Italian. Why aren't cruise ships built in America?"

    Americans are arrogant, Americans don't get along with the other crew, Americans this and that.

    Hey and guess what else Americans don't do- run ships up on the rocks and then flee like cowards. They don't desert sinking ships to leave the musician as the Person in Charge. They don't build cruise ships that catch fire every two seconds. http://www.abajournal.com/news/artic...e_lawyer_says/

    That's a Euro thing.
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    Default Re: CruiseCritic forum want to know why just a few American cruiseship captains

    Quote Originally Posted by catherder View Post
    Here's one comment: "Americans are too lazy and don't speak Italian.
    NYAH NUTS TO THEM! Tell them they can all go jerk themselves watching their good Captain Guido Abiggaone prance around like some effing peacock!
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    Default Re: CruiseCritic forum want to know why just a few American cruiseship captains

    here's one reply from that thread

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    Imho i think Americans aren't much for seafaring... Many want a family and work 9-5 jobs. Not making a sweeping generalization there are the career military, as well as over-the-road truck drivers who aren't always home, but otherwise i dont think the vast majority consider jobs at sea.

    Countries like Italy have maritime life at sea in their blood...
    Somebody needs to find this putz and make him eat those words along with a size 12 Redwing boot in his teeth!

    This is the ignorance which pervades the thoughts of the majority people of this nation and working at sea. This is why we have a David Matsuda and the MarAd we do!
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    Default Re: CruiseCritic forum want to know why just a few American cruiseship captains

    Quote Originally Posted by c.captain View Post
    here's one reply from that thread

    Somebody needs to find this putz and make him eat those words along with a size 12 Redwing boot in his teeth!

    This is the ignorance which pervades the thoughts of the majority people of this nation and working at sea. This is why we have a David Matsuda and the MarAd we do!
    This is a person in MERCHANICSBURG, PENNSYLVANIA saying that? An American? Really? And people wonder why Republicans think these damn hippies hate America. THEY SURE MAKE IT HARD NOT TO BELIEVE THAT. We should be deporting people like that right along side all those other illegal aliens, maybe some other country wants them, I sure don't.
    "And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by..."
    As I was a walkin' down London Road I come to Paddy West's house. He gave me a feed of "American hash" and he called it "Liverpool Scouse". He said, "There's a ship who's wantin' hands, and on 'er ye'll quickly sign! The mate is a bastard, the bos'un's worse but she will suit ye' fine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyWest2012 View Post
    This is a person in MERCHANICSBURG, PENNSYLVANIA saying that? An American? Really? And people wonder why Republicans think these damn hippies hate America. THEY SURE MAKE IT HARD NOT TO BELIEVE THAT. We should be deporting people like that right along side all those other illegal aliens, maybe some other country wants them, I sure don't.
    You'd be surprised how many Americans spout this crap, and pig pile on hard working fellow Americans who want a living wage. They come from both sides of the aisle. I replied to them but I doubt anything I said will sink in. You can't use the language they deserve there because the moderator will delete it. What a bunch of butthurt crybabies.
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    Wait... What?!?! What did I miss? Who's this idiot saying eyetalians is great seamans? This a cruise industry bashing forum this fella is ranting on? If so ain't they some threads on dat forum about that eyetalian captain that what come up and fell in a lifeboat. How does this fella come to the conclusion most Americans don't wanna go to sea and would rather work a 9 to 5er? Sounds like a preponderance of ignorance up in Pennsylvania.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraqrat View Post
    Wait... What?!?! What did I miss? Who's this idiot saying eyetalians is great seamans? This a cruise industry bashing forum this fella is ranting on? If so ain't they some threads on dat forum about that eyetalian captain that what come up and fell in a lifeboat. How does this fella come to the conclusion most Americans don't wanna go to sea and would rather work a 9 to 5er? Sounds like a preponderance of ignorance up in Pennsylvania.
    Nononono, not a bashing forum, just a forum where they talk about everything regarding cruising. I was lurking there just to read but then I came across the aforementioned crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherder View Post
    Nononono, not a bashing forum, just a forum where they talk about everything regarding cruising. I was lurking there just to read but then I came across the aforementioned crap.
    cathearder..ru us mariner there? If so, then good on you mate!

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    I have lurked here for some time and now feel compelled to post.

    Some of the comments regarding American merchant mariners are extremely inaccurate and downright offensive.

    We are still around, people, and we are not lazy nor are we overpaid. Your cruise ships are staffed with European officers and qualified non-licensed ratings, and Euro/Asian hotel staff because the ships are registered in foreign countries and the owners can therefore hire non-Americans.

    For dirt cheap.

    That does not make Americans overpaid. It means non-Americans are underpaid. Don't try that old saw about how they make more than the average worker back where they come from. They get stiffed out of wages, tips, and overtime so frequently it would make your head spin. I know. I've talked to enough of them. US labor laws need not apply.

    And that's how you get to sail multiple times a year as some of you do, because cruising is no longer a pastime for the wealthy or upper middle class. You wanted cheap, you got cheap. Cheap clothes, cheap electronics, cheap cars, cheap houses, cheap vacations. Let an American worker ask for a raise and he's automatically a "union thug."

    Eventually, though, everyone will be making third world wages and even cheap recreation will be a thing of the past.
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    cathearder..ru us mariner there? If so, then good on you mate!
    Yeah, that was me.

    Waaay too much time on the internet. But those idiots needed a word or three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherder View Post
    Yeah, that was me.

    Waaay too much time on the internet. But those idiots needed a word or three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherder View Post
    Yeah, that was me.

    Waaay too much time on the internet. But those idiots needed a word or three.
    Please keep us informed of the response you get, if any. I would be very interested to hear what the laymen, who know nothing but think they know everything, have to say. I can't wait!
    "And all I ask is a tall ship and a star to steer her by..."
    As I was a walkin' down London Road I come to Paddy West's house. He gave me a feed of "American hash" and he called it "Liverpool Scouse". He said, "There's a ship who's wantin' hands, and on 'er ye'll quickly sign! The mate is a bastard, the bos'un's worse but she will suit ye' fine!
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    Default Re: CruiseCritic forum want to know why just a few American cruiseship captains

    Americans are arrogant? These people have obviously never worked with Italians, or Greeks for that matter. I have seen first hand how arrogant the Greeks are in the engine department. They think they are above the rest and refuse to get dirty.
    These people claim that the cruise ship companies cant afford us, but they can and its all about profit margin. Some of the foreign crews work for less than minimum wage and they think we ask too much? None of those people complaining would work for those wages. If they did they could not afford those luxury cruises they are going on.
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