Cadet pay on commercial vessels

[fourdegreesc]

We had an engine-cadet last summer on our boat and he said that typical pay for a cadet on a summer "cadet shipping" trip was low. I'm interested in hearing what is expected pay and what people have seen.

I don't know if we're getting cadets this year because things have finally slowed down, but our cadet said that we paid WAY over what his classmates got elsewhere.

Does anyone know if it's true a company who takes on a cadet gets a tax break or credit? I've heard a bunch of stuff, but like information on so many programs its often unreliable.

Thanks guys.

-dennis

[New3M]

I was a cadet in summer 05 - made something around $25-26 a day, with NO tax break whatsoever.

[fourdegreesc]

That's what I was told. We paid our two cadets 180 last year. They said ti was fantastic.

About the tax break I was asking if the company get's a tax break from having the cadets....

-dennis

[CMA_Decky]

I made about 28 a day with MSC. Any overtime was "volunteering".

[New3M]

Originally Posted by fourdegreesc

That's what I was told. We paid our two cadets 180 last year. They said ti was fantastic.

About the tax break I was asking if the company get's a tax break from having the cadets....

-dennis

180 A DAY??? Holy shit. What company is this? Maybe I'll go sail as a cadet again...

[fourdegreesc]

Aries Marine
Pete Romero
(337)856-9015

I'm not sure if we're taking cadets this year, but Pete is the guy to talk to.

-dennis

[New3M]

What do the officers make if the cadets get paid that much? And is that more than the ABs onboard?

[bacardi addict]

Cadets out of KP get paid $890 a month minimum. It is in the agreement they have with all companies they ship with. Which breaks down to about $29 a day. Since they send out the most cadets most companies use this number. It raises every year a few percent to keep up with inflation.

In my experience as a cadet and my friends we all got this amount and we expected to work whatever what was asked. A few east coast tankers did pay overtime to people I knew but expect $29 a day if your cadeting deepwater.

[Stareed]

Chouest pays 180 a day for sea-term kids. There were about 12 of them waiting at the airport for the carry-all with me a couple of hitches ago. 180 is what they told me. AB's get 225-275 a day here (at Chouest).

[MMA-90]

I made $18.25 with Texaco in 1989. I'm wondering if the mates still collect a couple hundred bucks when you get off. That is an old tradition if you worked hard.

[TwoBlocked]

Originally Posted by MMA-90

I made $18.25 with Texaco in 1989. I'm wondering if the mates still collect a couple hundred bucks when you get off. That is an old tradition if you worked hard.

In the late 90's I made about $22/day as a cadet, IIRC. It definitely wasn't much for the work I was doing (basically jobs the Chief Mate didn't want to do...none of it was fun or clean).

As far as I know the tradition is still strong to collect money for hard working cadets. On about three ships I sailed on as a cadet I was given several hundred dollars before signing off by the officers. When I sailed on a Hvide Marine chemical carrier as an engine cadet I volunteered 8 hour watches with the First and 4 additional hours of day work rebuilding the diesel generators, welding up racks, and other general maintenance. The First made a call to the company and asked if I could get paid at the AB overtime rate for four hours a day and was granted permission. I walked off that ship with deep pockets, it was a good trip for me!

I just checked MSC's pay chart and cadets make $10,681/year base rate which is roughly $890/month as bacardi addict already stated.

[caps]

Cadets, and even the odd job student in my (dredging) company gets 2500 euro in one month, on a 6 weeks on/ 6 weeks off basis.

For a jobstrudent that is: two weeks work onboard and two weeks paid holiday.

Believe it or not !

www.theartofdredging.com