Current USCG checklist for 500 / 1600 Master Oceans & Near Coastal Download

[Mikey]

Attached is the current USCG checklist for 500 / 1600 Master Oceans & Near Coastal.

[water]

Mike - Thanks for consolidating the 500 T posts!

[Dolehendrix]

Interesting how they dropped the language...


(a) Three years total service on ocean or near coastal waters.
Service on Great Lakes and inland waters may substitute for up to 18
months of the required service. Two years of the required service must
have been as a master, mate, or equivalent supervisory position while
holding a license as master, mate, or operator of uninspected passenger
vessels. One year of the required service as master, mate, or equivalent
supervisory position must have been on vessels of over 50 gross tons.

[join9527]

have been as a master, mate, or equivalent supervisory position while

[jdcavo]

Interesting how they dropped the language...


(a) Three years total service on ocean or near coastal waters.
Service on Great Lakes and inland waters may substitute for up to 18
months of the required service. Two years of the required service must
have been as a master, mate, or equivalent supervisory position while
holding a license as master, mate, or operator of uninspected passenger
vessels. One year of the required service as master, mate, or equivalent
supervisory position must have been on vessels of over 50 gross tons.

The dropped reference to OUPV is more likely to be the result of copying and pasting from the section above for Master 1600 than it is to be another dark conspiracy by the evil minnions of the USCG. The reference to OUPV cannot be changed, it's in 46 CFR 11.418(a). A checklist cannot change a regualtion, so it is definitely still permitted. The checklist references the regulation, so it still applies, albeit through incorporation by reference.

[CaptJon1984]

I am going nuts trying to get my 500 to 1600 ton upgrade ready to go, and not finding anything regarding sea service required to upgrade from 500 to 1600, not an original issue of a 1600

[Capt. Phoenix]

You have to have all the sea time that the cfr says. They don't askew you to upgrade witj less sea time than an original issue...

[CaptJon1984]

I'm not looking to get it with less sea time, just not sure with what I have. I didn't have any sea time over 100 tons to use towards the 500, but most of it was on 99 ton boats. If they still do the tonnage x 1.5 I'll be all set when the time from sailing on my 500 is included

[skycowboy]

Can somebody enlighten me as to what constitutes " equivalent supervisory position"

[Tina]

Can somebody enlighten me as to what constitutes " equivalent supervisory position"

Thats where I get on top Sugar!

[Diesel]

Can somebody enlighten me as to what constitutes " equivalent supervisory position"

Nothing, I don't know why the phraseology is even included. Probably there because of something akin to what Mr. Cavo referenced as far as copy and pasting. Or it may reference some old license or position that doesn't even exist anymore. The only positions that have anything defined for "equivalent supervisory position" in the Personnel Guide is for engineers. You will never convince an evaluator of anything other than the required stated time, serving in the required stated positions, with the required stated credentials.

[Flyer69]

Thats where I get on top Sugar!

mmmmm that's hot!

[Jemplayer]

I'm not looking to get it with less sea time, just not sure with what I have. I didn't have any sea time over 100 tons to use towards the 500, but most of it was on 99 ton boats. If they still do the tonnage x 1.5 I'll be all set when the time from sailing on my 500 is included

You need 720 days using your 100 ton master to get your 500 ton. To upgrade to 1600 you need 720 days over 100 tons, 360 just on board and then 360 days as a mate or master on a boat over 100 tons. So if you've been using a 200 ton license on a 100 to 200 ton boat you are golden.

That help you any?

[CaptJon1984]

I only have a year of sea time sailing on my 500 ton thus far. I do need to turn in my toar to get master of towing added to my license. I guess the 1600 ton will have to wait another couple years

[Capt. Phoenix]

I only have a year of sea time sailing on my 500 ton thus far. I do need to turn in my toar to get master of towing added to my license. I guess the 1600 ton will have to wait another couple years

It doesn't matter how much time is on your 500 ton license, just total days. 1440 total, 720 over 100 grt, and 720 as master or mate while holding a license.

[CaptJon1984]

Yup, I have well over 1500 days in my career anyways. I've just not sailed on vessels over 100 tons before I got my 500 ton, hence time I've gotten over 100. I do have a year of cadet time that has never been turned in, but the CG is weird about letting you use it for anything.

[Capt. Phoenix]

Yup, I have well over 1500 days in my career anyways. I've just not sailed on vessels over 100 tons before I got my 500 ton, hence time I've gotten over 100. I do have a year of cadet time that has never been turned in, but the CG is weird about letting you use it for anything.

Time is time. It should count for tonnage. All you need then is 720 over 100 tons and 720 as master or mate while licensed.

[mtskier]

Here's the current 500/1600 Ton Checklist, revision 6. As of today 12/28/2011, the USCG NMC Checklist page is out of date.

[Swampfox]

Its great to see an updated checklist. I wish the checklist would have been updated LAST winter. I struggled and struggled with Flashing Light!! Anything but dits and dahs!

[brengus]

Thanks Mtskier! I've been looking for this and only running across the old list. I was sure I had seen that Medical Person in Charge had been removed, but wasn't finding it reflected on any of the checklists.
~brengus